Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jun 2012 22:17 UTC
Legal I stopped following all the patent trolling in the mobile industry months ago because, you know, I have a life, but apparently some big ruling just got handed down in the United States: using three software patents, a patent troll from Cupertino has been given an injunction on Samsung's Galaxy Nexus, imposing a ban on the device. This patent trolling has to stop, blah, blah, we've all been here before. If you need me, I'll be over there on the sofa remembering the good old days when Cupertino was famous for great products, instead of infamous for its patent troll.
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ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

Um, the Nexus is at end of life - we bought one a couple of months ago for $200 off. I thing Samsung has pretty much ridden that horse to market and back, but your concern for Samsung's healthy profit margins is commendable.

I loved Apple's statement - "It's no coincidence that Samsung's latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad, from the shape of the hardware to the user interface".

I wish in creating my old Treo Palm had thought of a rectangular shape, with rows of icons to launch apps, a settings page for configuring the device, and a web browser. How innovative Apple was in creating my iPad - they stood not on the shoulders of giants, but the base of the Grand Canyon! /sarcasm

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Um, the Nexus is at end of life - we bought one a couple of months ago for $200 off. I thing Samsung has pretty much ridden that horse to market and back, but your concern for Samsung's healthy profit margins is commendable.


Yes, however there's the legal costs they were wrapped up in. In multiple countries. All over the world.

Plus, please tell me you don't think that this is exclusively applicable to the Galaxy Nexus? The only reason the Nexus is specifically mentioned is because it is all that existed when this suit was filed.

They can easily extend it to other devices, as Apple has done in other places around the world.


I wish in creating my old Treo Palm had thought of a rectangular shape, with rows of icons to launch apps, a settings page for configuring the device, and a web browser. How innovative Apple was in creating my iPad - they stood not on the shoulders of giants, but the base of the Grand Canyon! /sarcasm


On the very front page of this website there's an article which praises Apple for their contribution to the smartphone market. Apple undoubtedly innovated in this area, and I think its pigheaded to simply brush aside those innovations.

They did most of the legwork for Android user interaction today, and as such, they deserve some credit.

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some1 Member since:
2010-10-05

They did most of the legwork for Android user interaction today, and as such, they deserve some credit.

Well, no, they did not. Apple did not invent the touch interface, they did something else. They created a market for smartphones. They made a simple polished device, targeted at an average guy/gal, not at power users like the smartphones before them. Then they did a massive marketing push (including staged queues at mobile shops) to convince an average user that he/she *needs* a smartphone. Now they are understandably pissed that other companies also benefit from their multi-billion investment, but I don't think there's a legal protection for hype.

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grahamtriggs Member since:
2009-05-27

On the very front page of this website there's an article which praises Apple for their contribution to the smartphone market. Apple undoubtedly innovated in this area, and I think its pigheaded to simply brush aside those innovations.


Innovation? Really? No doubt that Apple have changed the smartphone market dramatically. But being the first to demonstrate that something can be viable and desirable, is not the same as innovating.

Take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone#Early_years

The only real difference between IBM's Simon (1992), and the iPhone is the 15 years of technology and manufacturing advances that made it possible, and Google technology. Conceptually, they are the same device - multifunction, touchscreen only.

And even if you want to talk about multi-touch gestures, Apple certainly didn't invent them. Apple *bought* the company that did most of the work in the early 2000s, only 2 years before launching the iPhone.

Although Pierre Wellner published a paper covering the same ground - in 1991.

No doubt Apple have pushed the boundaries of what is physically achievable at (high end) consumer prices, and built a formidable business. And they make some very good products. But they are nowhere near as innovative as they have successfully fooled people into believing.

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phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

(Apple) did most of the legwork for Android user interaction today, and as such, they deserve some credit.


Does 150 billions iPhone sales not enough credit?
Or only an all-credits-monopole?

Because, they can't claim *all* merits. Prior arts forbid that. And it's hard to buy past history.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Nexus is still the present Google flagship without any follower announced. It's also the only phone to carry 4.1 announced fluidness to the masses, and is uber important to developers, nevermind the bad publicity giving fuel claims to trolls that chose to compete in court instead free market.
So the injunction if it passes is very much a big hit to Google. Biggest to date.

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Lorin Member since:
2010-04-06

Until IOS can handle widgets, there is nothing similar to the user interface, as for icons,those have been around long before Jobs had his wet dreams of IOS or any of the "i" products

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