Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jun 2012 12:06 UTC
Apple Exactly five years ago today, Apple officially released its entry into the mobile phone market, the iPhone. Immediately loved by customers the world over, ridiculed by the competition, and, in my book, not particularly innovative feature-wise, it changed the mobile phone industry virtually overnight. Love the iPhone or hate the iPhone, its industry-changing impact is evident.
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RE: App Store
by zima on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 13:45 UTC in reply to "App Store"
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App Store was introduced only a year later, in July 2008 - in the same month, Opera Mini saw "approximately 15.8 million users" ( - and already 17.3 million in August; also, by April of that year and "since its worldwide launch in 2006, more than 44 million people have downloaded and used Opera Mini" - so it went far beyond handset pre-installs), dwarfing the number of iPhones in the wild ( )...

...and this is just one 3rd party app that people installed on their phones - curious "basically no one did" you have there. They also sought games at the very least (IIRC Opera mentioned, in one State of the Mobile Web report, that games are the top downloaded content), largely in earlier app stores already fulfilling your description - like operator ones (for better or worse, those...) or Getjar.

Apparently some very much like to see "Apple this / Apple that" (perhaps looking at things from the bubble of their, overall, quite atypical place) ...but hard data disagree.

Edited 2012-07-02 13:51 UTC

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RE[2]: App Store
by Glynser on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 07:19 in reply to "RE: App Store"
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Yeah maybe I'm a bit misinformed, but to my perceived observation, before the iPhone, no one except for freaks or maybe some business users installed apps on their phones. Most people simply used what was already installed, or maybe installed 1 or 2 additional games or something like that (but never played them). Now since the iPhone, everyone seems to have tons of apps on their phones, and there also exist much more apps than before, e.g. every major website has their own app now, which is basically just a smartphone-friendly version of their web service, but this is something I have never really seen before the iPhone.

And btw I'm not an Apple fanboy ;) I don't really like them but I think they've really made a huge step with the whole "apps" infrastructure, at least to my personal observation.

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RE[3]: App Store
by zima on Thu 5th Jul 2012 03:15 in reply to "RE[2]: App Store"
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But again, when iPhone apps were just introduced in VII'08, merely one j2me (so for "feature phones", consumer stuff) app had already been downloaded by more people than the total number of iPhones existing even a year later (or even 1.5+y, judging from quick glance at that sales chart I linked above). That most likely goes far beyond "no one except for freaks or maybe some business users installed apps" (really classy description, that 1st one... and I wonder how would you describe those who chose iPhone when they were very expensive and/or camped for them under shops), especially since Opera Mini user surveys (discussed in some reports, in their archive) don't paint them at all as "freaks or maybe some business users" - just your fairly usual (if largely younger) folks, just mostly not living in few atypical countries where Apple has significant presence.

Yes, Apple popularised the concept and took it further*, which also included making it more visible thanks to their marketing (making many people believe it's "another" Apple invention?), but come on...

BTW, shovelware (particularly those glorified "Web 3.0" RSS readers that you mention) is not a good thing... but I guess custodians of those new appstores are happy, as long as rubbish inflates app numbers.

*though not as much as you probably think: the changes in global access rates are still more quantitative than qualitative, over the last few years; majority of the 5+ billion mobile subscribers likely still don't have the ability to install any apps - and when they'll get it, it will rarely be from Apple (indeed, Apple quite openly aims to prevent the majority of people from getting technology advancements: ). .

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