Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 22:17 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia board chairman Risto Siilasmaa went on a Finnish television show, and stated that while he is confident in Windows Phone 8, the company does have a back-up plan if it doesn't work out. Speculation aplenty - what is this backup plan? The answer's pretty easy, if you ask me.
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Well...
by Morgan on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 23:05 UTC
Morgan
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2005-06-29

At this rate I'll never have a WP8 phone. Microsoft is betting the farm on Nokia, and Nokia pretends CDMA never even existed, so the chance of seeing a WP8 device on Sprint at this point seems to be nonexistent.

And yes, I've heard the rumors of a CDMA Nokia device being tested in Asian markets, but that's been over a year ago and was a flimsy two-paragraph "report" to begin with.

Even assuming that every current WP7 user is dedicated to upgrading devices with the WP8 release, that's still only 4% of the smartphone market. Here in the U.S., that number is spread among two major Windows Phone carriers, both GSM based. I just don't see that as a sustainable base. maybe it will fare better in global markets where GSM is the standard.

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RE: Well...
by Nelson on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 23:09 in reply to "Well..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

At this rate I'll never have a WP8 phone. Microsoft is betting the farm on Nokia, and Nokia pretends CDMA never even existed, so the chance of seeing a WP8 device on Sprint at this point seems to be nonexistent.

And yes, I've heard the rumors of a CDMA Nokia device being tested in Asian markets, but that's been over a year ago and was a flimsy two-paragraph "report" to begin with.

Even assuming that every current WP7 user is dedicated to upgrading devices with the WP8 release, that's still only 4% of the smartphone market. Here in the U.S., that number is spread among two major Windows Phone carriers, both GSM based. I just don't see that as a sustainable base. maybe it will fare better in global markets where GSM is the standard.


VZW has stated they'll carry Windows Phone 8 devices, which indicates (unless they go pure VoLTE) that there will be CDMA devices. Sprint has previously said they're up on WP8 too, so if you hold them at their word, then there's reason for hope.

Also the Lumia 800C and 610C are CDMA Nokia handsets for China.

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RE[2]: Well...
by Morgan on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 23:20 in reply to "RE: Well..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Well I rarely try to hold the cellular companies to their word, that's an exercise in futility. But I do know that Sprint is all about iPhones these days, and they do have a good Nexus phone available. So, there are options, but I'd almost rather go back to a dumbphone than give Apple money.

And did those CDMA Nokia phones ever materialize? I tried to find out if they really exist but all I came up with were links to that year-old rumor article or someone's reblog of it. Regardless, they were supposedly only for the Asian market anyway (not that that has ever stopped me from buying a gadget).

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RE[2]: Well...
by dsmogor on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 06:32 in reply to "RE: Well..."
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Chinese doesn't use pure CDMA, but a variant of it not compatible with anything else. I guess with the sole reason of bypassing Quallcomm.

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RE: Well...
by henderson101 on Wed 4th Jul 2012 10:04 in reply to "Well..."
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

... Nokia pretends CDMA never even existed...


To be fair, it doesn't exist in Europe at all. My cousin brought his Droid to the UK and is was a glorified WiFi Skype phone for 2 weeks. There is zero CDMA coverage in the majority of Western Europe. So, Nokia, a European company, doesn't have a lot of reason to have rushed in to CDMA. They used to sell enough GSM. Okay - so now they shouldn't be as picky, and now they should probably be making CDMA devices. Est Nokia culpam.

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RE: Well...
by zima on Mon 9th Jul 2012 23:12 in reply to "Well..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Nokia pretends CDMA never even existed [...]
And yes, I've heard the rumors of a CDMA Nokia device being tested in Asian markets, but that's been over a year ago and was a flimsy two-paragraph "report" to begin with.

And did those CDMA Nokia phones ever materialize? I tried to find out if they really exist

Looks like more than a rumour, very much existing, to me... http://www.nokia.com/cn-zh/products/phone/800c/
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/800C/

And Nokia had some CDMA2000 phones in the past (search on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nokia_products ). Yeah, not too many... but among the few countries where that standard really sees some significant adoption, you have one place firmly in the grips of carriers (dictating / castrating phones in the past, they didn't seem to go along well with Nokia; oh, and the manufacturer of the standard had long-standing hostilities with Nokia), plus some more or less US colonies (so I suppose the trends in adoption of handsets might also partly spill over), including two which have few very strong mobile phone manufacturers of their own - and one of the manufacturers is the very same chaebol responsible for local CDMA2k network, LG U+.
Meanwhile & unusually, Nokia didn't have much presence, in more or less just those places, even when it comes to GSM phones and carriers.

Well, then there's China... I suppose it might be about them pragmatically desiring to gain experience with all the tech from throughout the world - each of the Chinese three major networks is based on different standard: one network with pure GSM family, one with domestic experiment, and one with CDMA2k (fairly standard one, contrary to what one poster nearby claims, probably confusing it with the 2nd; but I guess handset portability might still be a problem if you'd import it, SIM cards didn't become universal in CDMA2k networks so you're at the mercy of a carrier to enable the phone in their network...)

And you know, ultimately iPhones have one-digit percentage of adoption... (when it comes to phones in use, among worldwide 5+ billion mobile subscribers)

Edited 2012-07-09 23:29 UTC

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