Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Jul 2012 23:08 UTC
Google Apparently, this is a major victory of the patent system. This, this right here, this is what the patent system has come to. This is the destructive effect it's having on this once beautiful industry. Thanks to trolls like Apple and Microsoft, basic, elemental functionality is being removed from devices people already own.
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RE: No.
by Valhalla on Thu 5th Jul 2012 00:29 UTC in reply to "No."
Valhalla
Member since:
2006-01-24

Blame the gov't, blame the USPTO, but don't blame Apple for using the broken system.

I've always thought this line of reasoning to be incredibly naive. Why is USPTO granting all these pathetic patents out of hand, because they are so incredibly incompetent or because they are told to do so?

Given that USA's last bastion of export is 'intellectual property' it seems rather obvious to me that given the massive pull corporations have with the american government, the frivolous conduct with which patents are granted is a direct result of their lobbying on the matter.

To me it's furthermore equally obvious that after granting all these patents to american based companies, the US will do everything in their power to have these patents recognized outside of US borders.

And yes, I blame Apple for being one of, if not the worst in using these rotten to the core patents to stifle competition, 'slide gesture to unlock'?? 'multilingual keyboard depictions'?? seriously how the hell can anyone think these 'patents' can be granted unless the clerks at the USPTO have been instructed to grant everything which isn't already registered as a patent??

This is also why it's obvious there will be no patent-reform in the US, these companies have paid huge sums of money to buy and file tons of patents in order to prevent others from competing in their markets, they will make sure no laws are passed which will stop them from doing this.

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RE[2]: No.
by Adam S on Thu 5th Jul 2012 00:39 in reply to "RE: No."
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

If the system is broken, a responsible company should do whatever is legal in order to best succeed. And if they don't, shareholders should fire the board.

To suggest I'm naive tells me what sort of idealistic viewpoint you're coming from. No further debate necessary.

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RE[3]: No.
by kwan_e on Thu 5th Jul 2012 01:53 in reply to "RE[2]: No."
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

If the system is broken, a responsible company should do whatever is legal in order to best succeed. And if they don't, shareholders should fire the board.

To suggest I'm naive tells me what sort of idealistic viewpoint you're coming from. No further debate necessary.


Except your suggested course of action IS naive.

The system is broken because these "responsible" companies have a broken culture. THEY are the system.

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RE[3]: No.
by phoudoin on Thu 5th Jul 2012 08:27 in reply to "RE[2]: No."
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

If the system is broken, a responsible company should do whatever is legal in order to best succeed. And if they don't, shareholders should fire the board.

To suggest I'm naive tells me what sort of idealistic viewpoint you're coming from. No further debate necessary.


You're surely not naive. Cynical seems more adequate.
Too bad, most human History big steps were due to idealistic utopists, because only fool can believe they could change the world, right - Thus, only fools actually tries.

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RE[2]: No.
by JAlexoid on Thu 5th Jul 2012 06:42 in reply to "RE: No."
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Why is USPTO granting all these pathetic patents out of hand, because they are so incredibly incompetent or because they are told to do so?

According to pubpat.org they are paid to grant patents, not refuse them.
It's easier to grant a patent, than to refuse it. People are slaves of metrics and PTO examiners' metrics are how many valid patents they grant.(This effect is known and studied by economists)

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RE[2]: No.
by transami on Thu 5th Jul 2012 06:45 in reply to "RE: No."
transami Member since:
2006-02-28

Under Bush the USPTO was given a requirement to be financially self-sustainable. In effect, it was forced to become a for-profit business instead of a government service. The USPTO really had no choice but to start granting every nuance of patent under the sun.

Some of the patent's they have granted since then are mind numbing. I came across one for using `*` charcter for pattern matching... granted in 2009!

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RE[3]: No.
by ricegf on Thu 5th Jul 2012 11:23 in reply to "RE[2]: No."
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Bush wasn't president in 2009.

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RE[3]: No.
by dsmogor on Thu 5th Jul 2012 20:11 in reply to "RE[2]: No."
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

This is ridiculous, a private company having right to set legally enforceable acts.
What's next, commercial courts?

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RE[3]: No.
by bert64 on Sat 7th Jul 2012 09:51 in reply to "RE[2]: No."
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

They should start fining companies that file bogus patents, that would be a very good revenue stream for them...

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