Linked by nej_simon on Wed 4th Jul 2012 22:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The only MeeGo device to ever be released, the Nokia N9, has been updated to MeeGo/Harmattan 1.3. Among the improvements are improved performance, updated applications, improved NFC support, improved copy/paste, and more. In other news, the team behind MeeGo and Maemo is now leaving Nokia, probably making this the last update for the N9.
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RE: Comment by ichi
by zima on Thu 5th Jul 2012 01:35 UTC in reply to "Comment by ichi"
zima
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2005-07-06

And so they have become a pure hardware OEM dependant on MS software.

That's not strictly correct, there are still internal S40 (even made more ~modern recently, with touch variant) and S30...

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RE[2]: Comment by ichi
by B. Janssen on Thu 5th Jul 2012 08:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by ichi"
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"And so they have become a pure hardware OEM dependant on MS software.

That's not strictly correct, there are still internal S40 (even made more ~modern recently, with touch variant) and S30...
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Exactly. Symbian Belle may not compete with Android 4.x or iOS5 in the glamour department but in phone functionality it holds itself against Android 2.x and other low end devices. Nokia has shown a roadmap for Symbian extending as far as 2014 (Carla, Donna) and the official position is that Symbian will be supported at least up to 2016.

Symbian may not be hip (was it ever?) but it is a solid and reliable workhorse. I can see Nokia surviving on Symbian in the low-end market and attempt new shots from there, much like Samsung did.

EDIT: formatting.

Edited 2012-07-05 08:22 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by ichi
by ichi on Thu 5th Jul 2012 09:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ichi"
ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

Ah, that's nice then. I thought that after the "burning platform" speech they were burning all bridges.

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RE[3]: Comment by ichi
by cdude on Thu 5th Jul 2012 10:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ichi"
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2008-09-21

Symbian Belle


Symbian Belle, formally known as Symbian^3, is not S40. S40 is another Nokia OS that did not got killed from Elop yet - but its coming I am sure.

Nokia has shown a roadmap for Symbian extending as far as 2014 (Carla, Donna) and the official position is that Symbian will be supported at least up to 2016.


Symbian development got already outsourced a while ago. The Pureview was never supposed to appear in markets like the US. Elop made clear in his burning memo and continued to make clear that Symbian is dead. They may continue to sell devices and "support" them in a similar way they did with the N9 for some more years. But do not believe Symbian can recover. The ecosystem is dead already. Partners and the horde of developers left. Elop killed it. Symbian is losing rapidly what is why Nokia is moving so fast down cause they killed there work horse, there cash cow, the product that made them to the marked-leader and was the mobile OS #1 when Elop took over and killed it.

I can see Nokia surviving on Symbian in the low-end market and attempt new shots from there, much like Samsung did.


For that they need to shutdown the expensive WinPhone strategy. That try burns more money then Nokia is able to generate with its low-end products.

But the opposite is happening. Elop made clear that from now on the whole company will focus on WinPhone! Yes, not on other things like S40, like maps or like networks. No, on WinPhone!

Edited 2012-07-05 10:59 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by ichi
by zima on Thu 5th Jul 2012 12:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ichi"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

> there are still internal S40 (even made more ~modern recently, with touch variant) and S30...

Exactly. Symbian Belle [...]

Huh? I never mentioned Symbian... which, BTW, is outsourced to Accenture for a ~year.

And apparently it's now "Nokia Belle" - I guess to distance themselves from the stigma the Symbian trademark got.
(an action which, BTW, would be at the very least approved by the "saboteur" Elop)

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RE[2]: Comment by ichi
by cdude on Thu 5th Jul 2012 10:46 in reply to "RE: Comment by ichi"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

there are still internal S40


For the moment. Kill one platform at a time :-)

When killing Meltimi yesterday he also announced the plan to go with Lumia 60x future down the dumbphone segment. Guess what that means for the inhouse against WP competing S40 tomorrow?

Elop made clear that WinPhone is there only strategy. Just some weeks ago it was "There is no plan B". Either WinPhone or no phone. That includes also S40.

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RE[3]: Comment by ichi
by zima on Thu 5th Jul 2012 12:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ichi"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

That's more of conspiracy talk. No smartphone OS can go as low as S40 does, at least for quite some time - Elop knows it and, apparently, pushes for continuing S40 development (new recent variants of that OS, many new phones; likewise with S30)

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