Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Jul 2012 23:07 UTC
Legal Since I want to get this out of my system: here's a set of proposals to fix (okay, replace) the current failing patent system. No lengthy diatribe or introduction, just a raw list.
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by henderson101 on Fri 6th Jul 2012 09:25 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
henderson101
Member since:
2006-05-30

Are you forced to write OSNews? Delegate. If no one wants to take the mantle, admit defeat and close the site. It's also true that your personal blog is pretty sparse for the last few years. Why not write your opinion pieces there and link to your blog as a one of the "less important" side bar stories?

I dunno Thom, the site is less about OSNews, more about OSrude. Rude people, bigots, zealots, no one listens to anyone.

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by _txf_ on Fri 6th Jul 2012 09:59 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

However it seems that it is consistently the same people always complaining about the content of the site. If they don't like it, why don't they go somewhere else? Or even create their own?

They keep coming back and consistently complaining about the same things. Why do they keep coming back? There must be some content on the site that isn't available elsewhere, or maybe it is just their routine?

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by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 6th Jul 2012 10:17 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

However it seems that it is consistently the same people always complaining about the content of the site. If they don't like it, why don't they go somewhere else? Or even create their own?


It's all about what pet company or product they're cheering for. Those that cheer for Android will complain in an article where Android is criticised. Those that cheer for Amiga will complain in articles about the Amiga. Etc.

It's basic psychology, really. Nothing special.

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by henderson101 on Fri 6th Jul 2012 15:20 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I personally come back because I like some of the content. But I do find myself biting my lip most of the time. I used to be more vocal, but now I'd rather not get in to a circular argument.

I fall in to this mould:

* I like Apple
* I like Microsoft, especially the development tools
* I enjoy programming
* Former BeOS user, mainly on PowerPC (I owned a BeBox)
* Mainly use Mac's at home. My choice. It works for me.
* Mainly use PC's at work - mostly Windows.
* Have built/configured Gentoo from a bootstrap image
* Have owned Nokia and Sharp Linux based hand helds
* Was a Palm user and developer
* Have no particular use for Linux in my daily life, outside of appliances.
* Like iOS, and own devices that use it
* Like Windows Phone 7.5
* Have coded extensively for Windows mobile and various mobile LINUX devices
* Have not used Android since 1.5, probably would like to own an Android device 4.1 now.
* Owned Amigas
* Owned Acorn Archimedes and programmed demos on it
* Have used NextStep and OpenStep and have coded for them both.
* Have owned a newton
* Own a classic Mac (both 68000 and PowerPC based)
* Have written device drivers and low level code
* Have compiled an entire desktop class operating system from source that was *not* LINUX or LINUX based.
* Have written commercial code for embedded devices, handhelds and dashboard computers (Taxi/Goods/Transport) ans a hella lot of Windows and Mac

You can't nail me down or call me a fanboy, I'm not. I have a varied experience and I'm not specific at all. But at the moment, engaging in any meaningful conversations on OSRude is almost impossible because of the attitude of the minority.

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by MOS6510 on Fri 6th Jul 2012 19:53 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

This is Thom's personal blog effectively. Sometimes there is interesting OS news, but mostly (very) biased anti-Apple stuff.

But if Thom were to quit the site would die. The other OSNews team members might as well get lost in a magical forrest and we probably wouldn't notice until Christmas.

So, I guess we better be happy with the few gems we find burried in all the other stuff.

It would have helped if Thom was somewhat technical savvy. Maybe if they can add such a person to the team and somehow keep him active it would increase the number of truly interesting articles and outside the mainstream news. Someone that is open minded, not extremely biased and has seen tecnology change over the years.

Not getting in to rude arguments with his/her readers would help too!

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by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 6th Jul 2012 21:01 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Not getting in to rude arguments with his/her readers would help too!


Imagine being pounded with abrasive comments, ungratefulness, ridiculous unfounded accusations of bias towards and against every company and product known to man, insults about a supposed lack technical knowledge (even though I've covered more subjects than virtually ANY other tech blogger out there, and all that, FOR FREE), and far sicker and crazier stuff over e-mail - including personal threats to me and my family - for 7 years straight.

I'm going to be direct at times, yes. Fascinatingly enough, it's always the same people, over and over again, year after year, who complain. Nobody is forcing them to read a site they apparently don't like.

Everybody is free to contribute. We have an open door policy. Yet, these people never do. They are far more content just hurling personal attacks from the sidelines than actually doing something constructive. That's fine - it's your prerogative - but don't start crying if you get a biting remark in return every now and then.

Edited 2012-07-06 21:03 UTC

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by Morgan on Sat 7th Jul 2012 23:08 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

This is Thom's personal blog effectively. Sometimes there is interesting OS news, but mostly (very) biased anti-Apple stuff.


It's also a personal soapbox for every single person who posts a comment, you and I included. I don't see a difference, especially since anyone is free to submit stories.

But if Thom were to quit the site would die. The other OSNews team members might as well get lost in a magical forrest and we probably wouldn't notice until Christmas.


That's an overblown exaggeration, and hypocritical to your point as well. Thom is the most prolific editor by far, but if he were to leave there are quite a few others who could step in. The feel of the site would change just as with a band whose lead singer leaves, but I don't think there would be a mass exodus.

It would have helped if Thom was somewhat technical savvy.


Now you're just straight up trolling.

Maybe if they can add such a person to the team and somehow keep him active it would increase the number of truly interesting articles and outside the mainstream news. Someone that is open minded, not extremely biased and has seen tecnology change over the years.


That would be pretty much all of the OSNews staff as well as most of the commenters.

Not getting in to rude arguments with his/her readers would help too!


From what I've seen, Thom rarely even responds to personal attacks, especially baiting ones. When he does it tends to be from the standpoint of "whatever, let's get back on topic", which is how it should be.

Thom and I tend to disagree a lot, despite common interests. I'm also sick of the whole patent thing and I'm not happy to see it return to prominence here (though I agree with all of his points in the editorial). But launching a personal attack against him is just not cool especially from someone like you, who I personally have come to respect and enjoy talking to here. And as much as I really meant that last bit, you aren't forced to come here. I quit reading Slashdot because of the rampant idiocy there; if you have a problem with this website why stick around?

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