Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Jul 2012 23:07 UTC
Legal Since I want to get this out of my system: here's a set of proposals to fix (okay, replace) the current failing patent system. No lengthy diatribe or introduction, just a raw list.
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by MOS6510 on Sun 8th Jul 2012 07:34 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
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It's also a personal soapbox for every single person who posts a comment, you and I included. I don't see a difference, especially since anyone is free to submit stories.


Submitting your own news kind of defeats the purpose of coming to a site to read news, but I understand what you mean.

That's an overblown exaggeration, and hypocritical to your point as well. Thom is the most prolific editor by far, but if he were to leave there are quite a few others who could step in. The feel of the site would change just as with a band whose lead singer leaves, but I don't think there would be a mass exodus.


One or two could, but how many would? If Thom walks and two others step in things will change quickly, people will cheer, make jokes at Thom's expense. The Two have great plans and we want to see them happen. Then One gets a new job, promises he'll be back, but won't. The Other finds out it's much more work than expected and spends days wondering how Thom managed it, then he quits too.

Then people whish for the Thom Days, because they weren't that bad.

Well, it may go like this, it may not, but I do think people underestimate the ammount of time Thom spends and not many are either able or willing to do the same.

"It would have helped if Thom was somewhat technical savvy.


Now you're just straight up trolling.
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Perhaps I should have said technical interested. He's a user, his interest goes to the outside of stuff, the GUI of something. And towards stuff around tech, politics, business. Maybe stuff that's very important and should be on anyone's radar, but I don't think the real tech lover cares much for court cases.


That would be pretty much all of the OSNews staff as well as most of the commenters.


To me it seems most people are biased, even to such a level that any discussion is impossible. It seems every comment section now has the word "fanboy" embedded somewhere.

From what I've seen, Thom rarely even responds to personal attacks, especially baiting ones. When he does it tends to be from the standpoint of "whatever, let's get back on topic", which is how it should be.


My perception is different, but let's not argue about that. Wheter it's Thom or any other OSNews official, I think they shouldn't be rude to commenters.


Thom and I tend to disagree a lot, despite common interests. I'm also sick of the whole patent thing and I'm not happy to see it return to prominence here (though I agree with all of his points in the editorial). But launching a personal attack against him is just not cool especially from someone like you, who I personally have come to respect and enjoy talking to here. And as much as I really meant that last bit, you aren't forced to come here. I quit reading Slashdot because of the rampant idiocy there; if you have a problem with this website why stick around?


I'm retro, I came to this site way before Thom and sometimes interesting stuff does show up and we have an interesting crowd that may share interesting views of interesting stuff.

I too respect/enjoy you and agree with the article, but like I said before it should be important to us, but it also shouldn't. If this was SpaceNews Thom would write about how NASA is waisting money, how the Mars Rovers aren't innovative and people would comment that warp drives were already invented in the 60's. Probably true, intesting, important, but we want to see black holes, Mars panoramas and chat with Voyager 2.

There is a LOT of interesting stuff going on, we don't want patents every day even though one day they may destroy the world.

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by Morgan on Sun 8th Jul 2012 10:11 in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Perhaps I should have said technical interested. He's a user, his interest goes to the outside of stuff, the GUI of something. And towards stuff around tech, politics, business. Maybe stuff that's very important and should be on anyone's radar, but I don't think the real tech lover cares much for court cases.


Well to my knowledge he has built several computers from scratch, including a Hackintosh; he understands more about the inner workings of BeOS, QNX and RiscOS than I do, and I'm an enthusiast of all of the above. For a man several years younger than me, he has much more experience with technology overall, and I'm a hardware hacker for fun (since modding my first computer at age five) and profit (I fix broken electronic equipment at my part time job and I'm damn good at it).

My point being, we're all at different levels of technical prowess and expertise here, but one doesn't have to have an EE or CS degree to be a news editor, even for a tech site.

I'm retro, I came to this site way before Thom and sometimes interesting stuff does show up and we have an interesting crowd that may share interesting views of interesting stuff.


Same here, I remember thinking "who is this guy?" when he first started submitting news so many years ago, but that doesn't make me (or you) superior. In my case, it just makes me old. ;)

There is a LOT of interesting stuff going on, we don't want patents every day even though one day they may destroy the world.


No, I'm sure the vast majority of visitors here don't want patent news daily, and it seems by the tone of this editorial that Thom feels the same way; this is almost a magnum opus on the matter. Unfortunately, as much as we don't want to read about it, we need to stay abreast of the matter as it affects us all, consumers and creators alike.

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by MOS6510 on Sun 8th Jul 2012 10:28 in reply to "RE[6]: ..."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

At home, which I'm very far away from right now, I have this Seiko watch.

It's pretty rare and can be "docked" on a small keyboard and act as a screen to run BASIC programs on. I have two keyboards, a normal one and one with an embeded printer.

The problem is I can't connect the watch to either. The one with the printer keeps printing "connection error".

There are no visible connectors. I do as the manual says, but never does it even seem to connect.

Do you have any clues?

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by zima on Tue 10th Jul 2012 03:44 in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Submitting your own news kind of defeats the purpose of coming to a site to read news

Not completely - if you'd submit just 1 thing per week, and if just few dozen people did that...

If this was SpaceNews Thom would write about how NASA is waisting money, how the Mars Rovers aren't innovative and people would comment that warp drives were already invented in the 60's. Probably true, intesting, important, but we want to see black holes, Mars panoramas and chat with Voyager 2.

Well, they did waste a lot over the decades, pursuing some misplaced fantasies - the STS was one enormous scam, achieving practically nothing as advertised, and sucking out the funds. Not only NASA ones - it also made the stupid Soviet generals to desire "parity" for non-existent "strategic advantage" of STS.
(but it did look awesome, in spirit of http://www.osnews.com/permalink?523521 & kinda like "spaceplanes" in the scifi of ~40s, during rapid advances of airplane tech; hm, I think I can see a pattern: goo.gl pic in that link is from the times of rapid advances in marine tech)

If not for that, we'd probably at least have a constant stream of Lunokhods (and, later, planetary rovers; semi-mass-production - it's less about innovative, more about refinement and sustainable approach, no crazy crash projects); maybe a small moon base, too (but not warp / magic carpet fantasy... http://www.osnews.com/permalink?523694 )

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