Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Jul 2012 23:07 UTC
Legal Since I want to get this out of my system: here's a set of proposals to fix (okay, replace) the current failing patent system. No lengthy diatribe or introduction, just a raw list.
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RE[4]: Misunderstanding
by fretinator on Mon 9th Jul 2012 19:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Misunderstanding"
fretinator
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2005-07-06

I think the misunderstanding is between the original purpose of Patents (as stated elsewhere), and the actual practice of patents today. I would agree with your assessment of how patents are viewed and used today. Obviously you would know! The arguments is whether or not the current practice matches the orginal intent.

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RE[5]: Misunderstanding
by pjafrombbay on Tue 10th Jul 2012 05:18 in reply to "RE[4]: Misunderstanding"
pjafrombbay Member since:
2005-07-31

fretinator said: I think the misunderstanding is between the original purpose of Patents (as stated elsewhere), and the actual practice of patents today ... The arguments is whether or not the current practice matches the orginal intent.


Hi!

As I've said several times, I don't believe the Patent Offices of the world have the resources to keep up with the demand for their services. They seem to have adopted an approach of "let it through and the 'prior art' holders will sue if they feel aggrieved enough".

When I worked for the Australian Patent Office this was most certainly NOT the case but times have changed.

Governments either need to cough-up with the resources or simply get out of the way.

I agree with the general sentiments of this post - it is just ridiculous the way things are today. A company with big pockets (like Apple) can stifle competition by relying on patents (like for a single search function or the shape of a mobile phone) that should NEVER have been issued.

Regards,
Peter

Edited 2012-07-10 05:23 UTC

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RE[6]: Misunderstanding
by Alfman on Tue 10th Jul 2012 06:19 in reply to "RE[5]: Misunderstanding"
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2011-01-28

pjafrombbay,

I think you, JAlexoid, and fretinator are absolutely right. The justification for granting patent monopolies has shifted. Initially, the whole reason the public government allowed private monopolies was to provide an incentive to disclose trade secrets. In other words, the patent system was envisioned as a public benefit rather than a private entitlement. Today patent holders are typically considered the main beneficiaries, and any shred of public benefit is completely sidelined and obfuscated. Patent holding companies feel entitled to own patent monopolies regardless of whether the system produces a public benefit or not.


As for the lack of resources, I think there's a combination of factors at work. I've already mentioned some recently here:

http://www.osnews.com/comments/26152?view=flat&sort=&threshold=0

The number of patents is always increasing (close to 200k granted per year in the USA alone, no clue on foreign patents), the resources that count as prior art (traditional book/magazines & new online media & existing products) just continue accumulating as well. So regardless of what cost cutting measures the patent office might try to implement, the per-patent costs (after inflation) should logically be projected to rise indefinitely for a constant level of service.

Since the PTO can't/won't raise their prices indefinitely, the level of quality simply has to drop. We could allocate more resources to help the PTO cope for the time being, but in the long term it cannot scale along a field as large as IT without impeding it.

Edited 2012-07-10 06:23 UTC

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