Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Jul 2012 22:05 UTC, submitted by Mbg
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Sorry for the delay in writing a story about this, but here we finally are: Nokia's MeeGo (or Maemo or whatever it's called this hour) is getting its successor. Yes, MeeGo, the short-lived but beloved platform running on the unicorn phone, the Nokia N9, will continue onwards in a slightly different form. Its new home? Jolla - a company formed by former Nokia chief operating officer Marc Dillon, who was the principal engineer for MeeGo/Maemo at Nokia since 2006.
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New Phone
by Stagrat on Tue 10th Jul 2012 03:07 UTC
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2012-07-10

i have used the N8 N9 and Lumia Nokia phones, the N8 has the best features, High Def camera, FM Transmitter (one of the best features) and large storage, but the symbian OS was a bit crappy, the N9 MEEGO OS is great and easy to use, but i missed the features of the N8, the handset was a step back in my opinion, and now the Lumia.....What a chunk of crap! it is glitchy and the navigation is awful. when you bring out your next phone, for it to be successful, it will need to have following features :

1. FM Transmitter - this is one of the smartest features of any phone. and a must for those who use the phone as a media player. in the car, turn on the transmitter and listen to your music while driving.

2. HD camera- at least 8MP at the very min 12MP preferable. phone photography and facebook are becoming a normal part of everyday life.

3. tough case / Waterproof - the phone must be durable and the technology is available and cheep to make phones waterproof so why arnt they? water is the biggest killer of handsets.

4. GPS and quality navigation software - this must be free to use once purchased otherwise people wont go for it.

5. large internal storage - 64gb min or expandable memory. once again a must for those who use their phone to watch movies or listen to music.

6. the most important a decent battery - nothing more frustrating than a phone that goes flat all the time, lets face it the N9 eats batteries.

7. Flash player, a must for internet usage.

8. plus all the usual bluetooth and stuff.

people are after a single product that does the lot, it has to be much more than a smart phone, its a music player, a pc ,a GPS for the car, and a memory stick all in one. and a quality look and feel is also a must. you might think this is over the top but it is what people want.....Quality

i guarantee if you can meet these specs, with the MEEGO os you will be on a winner

...Your thoughts?

Edited 2012-07-10 03:08 UTC

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RE: New Phone
by shmerl on Tue 10th Jul 2012 03:28 in reply to "New Phone"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Flashplayer is not a must. Even Google plans to drop it from Android.

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RE: New Phone
by 0brad0 on Tue 10th Jul 2012 04:56 in reply to "New Phone"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05


7. Flash player, a must for internet usage.


Thankfully Adobe has killed off development/support of their Flash player for mobile devices/embedded devices and Linux. Seeing as MeeGo is both Linux and an OS that runs on mobile devices there is a good chance (and again good) that won't happen.

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RE: New Phone
by Nelson on Tue 10th Jul 2012 06:55 in reply to "New Phone"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

That's interesting, everyone ive met with a Lumia loved their phone. It has a 96% satisfaction rating.

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RE[2]: New Phone
by lucas0 on Tue 10th Jul 2012 07:04 in reply to "RE: New Phone"
lucas0 Member since:
2012-04-20

Maybe because there are just two kind of people who buy WP: Windows & Nokia employees ;)

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RE[2]: New Phone
by cdude on Tue 10th Jul 2012 09:02 in reply to "RE: New Phone"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

That's interesting, everyone ive met with a Lumia loved their phone. It has a 96% satisfaction rating.


http://wmpoweruser.com/yankee-group-find-att-nokia-lumia-900-custom...

"Yankee Group find AT&T Nokia Lumia 900 customer satisfaction very low"

Maybe different for those lucky guys who bought a Lumia on Amazon bundled with a free xbox?

Edited 2012-07-10 09:05 UTC

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RE: New Phone
by daedalus on Tue 10th Jul 2012 07:47 in reply to "New Phone"
daedalus Member since:
2011-01-14

1. FM Transmitter - this is one of the smartest features of any phone. and a must for those who use the phone as a media player. in the car, turn on the transmitter and listen to your music while driving.

Yep, that is an awesome feature alright, but then again, many car stereos support bluetooth streaming which is even better, so it's not a high priority for me. Works like the FM transmitter on my stereo except no interference and I can skip tracks, pause etc. without taking the phone out of my pocket.

2. HD camera- at least 8MP at the very min 12MP preferable. phone photography and facebook are becoming a normal part of everyday life.

Hmmm... 12MP? Really? For what? All it means is larger grains in an otherwise horrible quality photo. Any old 5MP Coolpix camera will take better photos than a 12MP camera on a phone. It's not about the megapixels, it's about the quality of the sensor, and current manufacturing methods dictate that a decent quality sensor is too big to fit in a phone.

Besides, how many pixels can you fit on a Facebook photo? Take it at 1 or 2MP, there'll be less noise, it'll upload quicker, and the end result will be the same size anyway. 5MP for example is already too many pixels to display on any normal monitor (yes, even HD), so why not use a 5MP sensor with better sensitivity, so you get better quality photographs in the pub (which is probably where the camera will be used most anyway). Going for higher megapixels on a phone is buying into marketing figures without any consideration for what you actually want.

6. the most important a decent battery - nothing more frustrating than a phone that goes flat all the time, lets face it the N9 eats batteries.

Indeed. I've got an N9 on order at the moment, but I'm really gonna miss the week-long battery life of my E52. To be able to go away for a weekend and not have to think about bringing chargers and international adaptors is fantastic. But the N9 isn't alone there - any phone with a big screen and fast CPU/GPU is gonna eat the battery. Nothing you can do abou it but make the phone bigger for a higher capacity battery. And the market doesn't want that.

7. Flash player, a must for internet usage.

Having had my E52 for almost 3 years, I can honestly say I've used the Flash player about twice. The Youtube app can be launched from the browser for a much nicer viewing experience on webpages (as nice as it can be on a small screen anyway), and I can't think of any other Flash content which I would want to access on my phone. Horses for courses though, some people can't seem to live without Flash games and so on...

Edited 2012-07-10 07:51 UTC

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RE[2]: New Phone
by sicofante on Tue 10th Jul 2012 12:20 in reply to "RE: New Phone"
sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

Indeed. I've got an N9 on order at the moment, but I'm really gonna miss the week-long battery life of my E52.

How about using the N9 in similar way as you used your E52? I enjoy an E52 as well and it's never online-by-default. Of course I uninstalled Whatsapp because it wanted my phone to be connected to the 3G network permanently, destroying its battery life (well, also because I hate the constant buzz of people disturbing with the most irrelevant issues). I just connect on demand. Current smartphones want to be permanently online and that must hurt battery life a lot.

I also plan to get an N9, but I'll definitely won't be keeping it online all the time. I bet it won't be much much worse than the E52. (Of course the screen is a battery eater, but on AMOLEDs black themes and proper usage will help a lot).

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RE[2]: New Phone
by axilmar on Fri 13th Jul 2012 12:59 in reply to "RE: New Phone"
axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

"7. Flash player, a must for internet usage.

Having had my E52 for almost 3 years, I can honestly say I've used the Flash player about twice. The Youtube app can be launched from the browser for a much nicer viewing experience on webpages (as nice as it can be on a small screen anyway), and I can't think of any other Flash content which I would want to access on my phone. Horses for courses though, some people can't seem to live without Flash games and so on...
"

So, no Liveleak, no Google video, no VEVO, etc? You know, it's only Youtube that has videos...

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RE[2]: New Phone
by zima on Mon 16th Jul 2012 22:48 in reply to "RE: New Phone"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

> 1. FM Transmitter [...]

Yep, that is an awesome feature alright, but then again, many car stereos support bluetooth streaming which is even better, so it's not a high priority for me. [...] without taking the phone out of my pocket

Though "many" doesn't really describe the situation accurately, people don't replace car stereos all that often...
BTW those using smartphones in their cars do have some holder for it quite often, since it's usually also a good GPS.

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RE: New Phone
by No it isnt on Tue 10th Jul 2012 11:31 in reply to "New Phone"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

2. HD camera- at least 8MP at the very min 12MP preferable. phone photography and facebook are becoming a normal part of everyday life.


The N9's camera is 8 megapixels, and unimpressive. The Lumia, from what I've seen, is even worse (despite having the same(?) Carl Zeiss lens). There's much more to a camera than megapixels. The Galaxy III takes very nice pictures with 8 megapixels.


5. large internal storage - 64gb min or expandable memory. once again a must for those who use their phone to watch movies or listen to music.


Spotify and other streaming services are taking over for local storage.


6. the most important a decent battery - nothing more frustrating than a phone that goes flat all the time, lets face it the N9 eats batteries.


Battery drainage depends so much on use with smartphones. If you use all kinds of push sevices and stay connected to Google Talk all the time, it will drain your batteries a bit. Do the same in an area with flaky GSM reception, and the N9 with gulp down the battery juice in no time. Others will do the same, but YMMV.

As for Flash, it's available for Meego but I haven't bothered with installing it after reflashing the latest firmware. The sooner it dies, the better.

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RE[2]: New Phone
by Savior on Tue 10th Jul 2012 11:47 in reply to "RE: New Phone"
Savior Member since:
2006-09-02

Battery drainage depends so much on use with smartphones. If you use all kinds of push sevices and stay connected to Google Talk all the time, it will drain your batteries a bit. Do the same in an area with flaky GSM reception, and the N9 with gulp down the battery juice in no time. Others will do the same, but YMMV.


True. My Defy w/ CM7 and a vm_size set to 8k lasts a week in standby. However, I don't think it would last two hours if I started to play.

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