Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Jul 2012 22:05 UTC, submitted by Mbg
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Sorry for the delay in writing a story about this, but here we finally are: Nokia's MeeGo (or Maemo or whatever it's called this hour) is getting its successor. Yes, MeeGo, the short-lived but beloved platform running on the unicorn phone, the Nokia N9, will continue onwards in a slightly different form. Its new home? Jolla - a company formed by former Nokia chief operating officer Marc Dillon, who was the principal engineer for MeeGo/Maemo at Nokia since 2006.
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RE[2]: I´m not very hopeful
by jgfenix on Tue 10th Jul 2012 06:46 UTC in reply to "RE: I´m not very hopeful"
jgfenix
Member since:
2006-05-25

yes, tell that to your aunt and all your friends: "LetΒ΄s use the xxx server". ItΒ΄s for them easier than simply installing an application and providing a telephone number and email.

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shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

They use different e-mail servers, and don't even in nightmares imagine that they can't send e-mails to users from other e-mail servers. Yet with IMs this kind of prehistoric computing age situation is a norm for some reason. XMPP is not different from e-mail in that regard, and the argument that "the aunt can't get it" doesn't really stand.

Edited 2012-07-10 07:32 UTC

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

That is one of the reasons I don't use Facebook and others. It's the same problem. They are all silos.

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r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

I see you've stayed too long in the geeksphere. E-mail is a hurdle for non-geeks. It basically is two lines of configuration with a semi-standardized format in The Netherlands (pop.< provider >.< top level domain > & smtp.< provider >.< top level domain >), but I see a lot of people struggle with it. Most of the time it has been set by someone else, many aeons ago. When they need to do that again, they have no idea what the settings are and what their account credentials were. ("Did I need to keep that letter?") It simply worked all this time.

Asking people to think about their IM server setup is forgetting that only a small percentage of the world is geek. Whatsapp is simple. Just install it. Follow a few questions and bam! you're connected to people you care about. All very convenient and for the low, low cost of $2 per year. Should Whatsapp fold, you simply move on to the next easy solution.

When it comes to XMPP, AFAICT, no app is braindead easy and takes care of the mundane connection settings. More importantly, nobody who anybody gives a hoot about is on an XMMP enabled network.

I have more connections to non-geeks than geeks and I have given up on trying to get "normal" people to move to "the better solution". Where they go, I need to follow. At least if I don't want to sit on a technologically pure but uninhabited island.

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sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

Just tell them to use their gmail account and presto. That's not precisely "niche" and fully supports the XMPP protocol.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Not quite fully ...there are sometimes some weird lingering issues with transports for example, or even with authorisation (when adding contacts using 3rd party servers).

And anyway, Google is sabotaging it a bit - they basically stopped developing, retired their very nice desktop client (while other Jabber clients are mostly so-so, in context).

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