Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Jul 2012 22:05 UTC, submitted by Mbg
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Sorry for the delay in writing a story about this, but here we finally are: Nokia's MeeGo (or Maemo or whatever it's called this hour) is getting its successor. Yes, MeeGo, the short-lived but beloved platform running on the unicorn phone, the Nokia N9, will continue onwards in a slightly different form. Its new home? Jolla - a company formed by former Nokia chief operating officer Marc Dillon, who was the principal engineer for MeeGo/Maemo at Nokia since 2006.
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RE[5]: New Phone
by cdude on Tue 10th Jul 2012 10:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: New Phone"
cdude
Member since:
2008-09-21

In fact the highest return rates in Nokia history.

The thing is that whatever satisfactions-rate you may come up as advertising method, its the number of sold phones and the profit you made with them that counts at the end of the day.

Just some days more and Nokia is going to publish the Q2 financial numbers. Prepare for the truth.

Edited 2012-07-10 10:55 UTC

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RE[6]: New Phone
by Nelson on Tue 10th Jul 2012 22:03 in reply to "RE[5]: New Phone"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Source? Because the two sides to the story don't seem to mesh. There can't be both sky high satisfaction and high return rates.

Given that Windows Phone have traditionally always had great satisfaction rates, I'd be interested in seeing how what you say is true.

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RE[7]: New Phone
by ze_jerkface on Thu 12th Jul 2012 00:19 in reply to "RE[6]: New Phone"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

WP7 has high satisfaction rates but it's also possible that return rates are high due to some people expecting the same app selection that they see on their friend's iphone.

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RE[7]: New Phone
by cdude on Thu 12th Jul 2012 08:10 in reply to "RE[6]: New Phone"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

As I wrote its very likely an advertising method.

Usually only a single digit percent of those who bought a Lumia care to give feedback, to participate at surveys or rate them in web formulas.

An example would be the 90% satisfaction-rate for Lumia sold in the Chinese market which was the result of only 16 people giving feedback at all (single digit % of the very less who bought the Lumia indicating that the whole "Lumia sells better then iphone in China" story is bs, just another advertising method).

I would not go as far to suggest that anyone, Nokia or Microsoft, would manipulate them. But I think hard-core fanboys, employees and partners[1], etc. may a bigger chunk of those who care to rate.

Or do you think all those who bring back there Lumia to the shops and get e.g. an Android as replacement bother to spend later time rating the Lumia?

I think hard numbers, like return rates or sells, are way more accurate then web formula surveys. Also cause the last time I did participate at such a survey it was enough to press the reload-button on my browser to vote multiple times as single person. Let alone that I did not even had to prove that I was using the product I voted for.

Just have a look at the Lumia sells and you get an impression how well it does in the market, how well its received and how satisfied users are[2]. That is not only more accurate but also what counts at the end of the day. When you do so also not forget that currently Lumia are very cheap (1 cent at amazon whereas it was 100 Dollar some months ago), do not forget the Lumia discount, the free xbox bundled with them or the millions of $ spend on advertising.

Soon Nokia will publish there Q2 numbers and then we have the hard facts. Expect the worst.

[1] A very big contingent of Lumia where given away to employees and ATT sales dudes for free. I think I would be satisfied with a free Lumia too but would be rather upset when paying hundreds of $ to realize some weeks afterwards that my shiny new toy is already outdated, unsupported and won't get the super-great new Windows 8 all are talking about.

[2] A good satisfaction would mean people would suggest the Lumia to there friends which would increase sells. Those writing articles reviewing the Lumia would be satisfied too (or are they so different from "normal customers" that they get totaly another impression?) and would write very good reviews. Neither happened.

Edited 2012-07-12 08:25 UTC

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