Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Jul 2012 21:44 UTC
Windows Jeff Atwood: "In the post PC era, Microsoft is betting the company on Windows 8, desperately trying to serve two masters with one operating system. The traditional mouse and keyboard desktop is no longer the default; it is still there, but slightly hidden from view, as the realm of computer nuts, power users, and geeks. For everyone else, the Metro UI puts an all new, highly visual touch and tablet friendly face on the old beige Wintel box. Will Microsoft succeed? I'm not sure yet. But based on what I've seen so far of Windows 8, its pricing, and the new Surface hardware - I'm cautiously optimistic." So am I. However, a lot - and I mean a lot as in 'everything' - will depend on the quality of the Metro applications. So far, the quality has been utterly abysmal, both for first and third party ones. Microsoft is promising Metro application goodness for RTM, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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RE: Post PC era? Really?!?
by Dr.Mabuse on Tue 10th Jul 2012 23:40 UTC in reply to "Post PC era? Really?!?"
Dr.Mabuse
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2009-05-19

I think this is spot on.

It seems that Microsoft is frothing at the mouth to get a piece of the iPhone/Android action, probably because they see the control that Apple has over their whole computer ecosphere. This is of course completely opposite to the PC philosophy most people know and love.

I've mentioned it before, but it seems to be worth repeating: Microsoft, it appears, does not understand it's own real assets. As the above post demonstrates, the PC is not going anywhere.

We have a lot of mobile devices in my office, but I can assure you that when the B.S. stops, and people want to get work done, they all return to their Dell workstations, fire-up Solid Works, Unigraphics, Altium, In-Design and a plethora of other "serious" PC applications that could never hope to be ported to the mobile style platforms.

Why not focus on continuing making *this* experience the best?

With that said, I still think the idea of a "mobile component" to Windows 8 is smart (for those notebook/tablet hybrids) but instead of pushing Metro to the front, it should have simply been another part of the OS that can "fire-up" when needed.

In the rush to appear hip and relevant, they are once again (IMHO) making a mess of things. I guess only time will tell if I'm right...

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RE[2]: Post PC era? Really?!?
by Nelson on Wed 11th Jul 2012 05:50 in reply to "RE: Post PC era? Really?!?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The experience you outline above is in the clear minority, and in fact, still possible with Windows 8. People just enjoy concern trolling.

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RE[3]: Post PC era? Really?!?
by Dr.Mabuse on Wed 11th Jul 2012 06:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Post PC era? Really?!?"
Dr.Mabuse Member since:
2009-05-19

The experience you outline above is in the clear minority, and in fact, still possible with Windows 8. People just enjoy concern trolling.


Clear minority, perhaps, but it's the most important part of Windows.

If I want a toy, there are plenty of other options. Yes, it's possible to still work these apps in Win8, but the next version?

It doesn't take that much foresight to see where we are heading and it shouldn't be called trolling.

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RE[2]: Post PC era? Really?!?
by zima on Mon 16th Jul 2012 23:24 in reply to "RE: Post PC era? Really?!?"
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2005-07-06

I can assure you that when the B.S. stops, and people want to get work done, they all return to their Dell workstations, fire-up Solid Works, Unigraphics, Altium, In-Design and a plethora of other "serious" PC applications that could never hope to be ported to the mobile style platforms.
Why not focus on continuing making *this* experience the best?

Especially various ~CAD stuff could be great on large touchscreen (going "back" to the concept of drawing boards - we lost some good things when they were largely abandoned - and building upon them in ways which ~desktop OS cannot), making the experience *much better*. You really don't see that?

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