Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jul 2012 01:24 UTC
"We're able to produce absolutely stunning websites and mobile apps with great interaction design. Interfaces that are smooth and fun and let us understand information without even trying. But when it comes to email clients, we get a bit of a boring feeling, like using an old piece of software from 10 years ago. I think we can do better. So let's do that." Great ideas and beautiful design by Tobias van Schneider, but why he would forcefully shoehorn this clearly digital UI into Mac OS X is beyond me. It has no place there. This just screams Metro.
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by Nelson on Wed 11th Jul 2012 03:36
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That is what XAML was meant to be for - programmers could focus on the heavy lifting backend whilst the front end could be worked on by experts in usability and design. Same can be done in the case of Mac OS X where backend and front end are separated rather than intermingled together.
So what happens if you're the programmer and don't have a designer working for you? I guess you're fundamentally boned. At least with Windows Forms and VB6, this wasn't really an issue.
As for the article in question, I can't really comment on it since I am visually impaired, and I can't use my screen reader, since the author made the whole f**king web page an image.
WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!
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by Soulbender on Wed 11th Jul 2012 05:11
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I can't use my screen reader, since the author made the whole f**king web page an image.
Yeah, that's a big WTF even though I am not visually impaired. I mean really? In 2012? The whole page pretty much is a giant image?
Not a good start for showing off your awesome new email client design.
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by Nelson on Wed 11th Jul 2012 05:47
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by OSNevvs on Wed 11th Jul 2012 06:13
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RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e
by Morgan on Wed 11th Jul 2012 06:58
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Right there with you. My eyes aren't bad enough (yet) to need a screen reader, but would it have killed the guy to slice up his image and replace the rendered text with the real thing for those who do need it? Come on, I'm rusty when it comes to doing that kind of thing but I could manage it in about 20 minutes.
Or hell, at the very least embed the copy in alt text.
Yet another example of a supposedly great designer not using plain old common sense.
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by No it isnt on Wed 11th Jul 2012 10:12
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Designers have a reputation for being superficial wankers, and that web page is a great example as to why: it's set up to look nice, but without any respect for the medium it's supposed to work in. And so are the ideas presented, asking for "perfect spacing and clean typography". In email. Good luck with that.
Then again, the web site, despite his efforts to avoid the limitations of actual web design, is actually not well designed at all, not even for people without visual disabilities. It just looks fancy while ignoring function. It's a load of fluff.
There's one good idea in there: a priority inbox. I wish someone like Google will pick up that.
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by Morgan on Wed 11th Jul 2012 14:14
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For the visually impaired, here's what's written on the page...
When the first web page was published in the early 1990's there was no big difference to the web we know today. And that's the problem.
Technology has been evolving over the past couple of years. But I still turn text articles into a f#*king great jpeg, just like pisspoor excuses for webmasters used to do back in the 90s.
Technology has advanced, but I had to do this text-to-jpeg conversion manually, because there's no way to do it other than in my $800 edition of Adobe Photoshop.
How come then that the Web has never really changed? This ticked the part of my brain that likes to design boring fonts that "fix" the "problems" in Helvetica and which nobody will ever use.
I know of course that I can do better and I've done just that. You can attach my Nobel prize and send it to me at my .me address.
1. Text is useless and not fit for a creative workflow. All web creation programs (Dreamweaver, Indesign, ...er... FrontPage.... er... that's it) should *automatically* convert text into image files. Like jpegs. Or even better: animated GIFs!!
2. I'm always looking for ACTIONSTEPS (patented, copyrighted, registered trademark). Once I've created my FGJFT (f*#king great jpeg for text) webpage, I want my web editor to automatically offer logical next steps, like "Add auto-playing MIDI" or "Upload to following: Tripod, Angelfire, Geocities".
3. And why does nobody but me ever have the intelligence to think about ***stuff***? Christ, am I only one with a brain?
Thank you for basking in my worthiness.
Technology has been evolving over the past couple of years. But I still turn text articles into a f#*king great jpeg, just like pisspoor excuses for webmasters used to do back in the 90s.
Technology has advanced, but I had to do this text-to-jpeg conversion manually, because there's no way to do it other than in my $800 edition of Adobe Photoshop.
How come then that the Web has never really changed? This ticked the part of my brain that likes to design boring fonts that "fix" the "problems" in Helvetica and which nobody will ever use.
I know of course that I can do better and I've done just that. You can attach my Nobel prize and send it to me at my .me address.
1. Text is useless and not fit for a creative workflow. All web creation programs (Dreamweaver, Indesign, ...er... FrontPage.... er... that's it) should *automatically* convert text into image files. Like jpegs. Or even better: animated GIFs!!
2. I'm always looking for ACTIONSTEPS (patented, copyrighted, registered trademark). Once I've created my FGJFT (f*#king great jpeg for text) webpage, I want my web editor to automatically offer logical next steps, like "Add auto-playing MIDI" or "Upload to following: Tripod, Angelfire, Geocities".
3. And why does nobody but me ever have the intelligence to think about ***stuff***? Christ, am I only one with a brain?
Thank you for basking in my worthiness.
Disclosure: I have edited the original article somewhat... you know, for length.
;)
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That is what XAML was meant to be for - programmers could focus on the heavy lifting backend whilst the front end could be worked on by experts in usability and design. Same can be done in the case of Mac OS X where backend and front end are separated rather than intermingled together.