Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jul 2012 01:24 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces "We're able to produce absolutely stunning websites and mobile apps with great interaction design. Interfaces that are smooth and fun and let us understand information without even trying. But when it comes to email clients, we get a bit of a boring feeling, like using an old piece of software from 10 years ago. I think we can do better. So let's do that." Great ideas and beautiful design by Tobias van Schneider, but why he would forcefully shoehorn this clearly digital UI into Mac OS X is beyond me. It has no place there. This just screams Metro.
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RE[3]: Comment by tupp
by kaiwai on Wed 11th Jul 2012 11:55 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by tupp"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

It's a lot about being fashionable or old-fashioned. To these people influenced by social pressure, everything has to be reinvented always. Right now, they need to pollute everything with Facebook and Twitter integration and icons. For me, email works very nicely, and the "problems" he "raises" are not problems. I'm very happy with my Gmail interface and backend. Really nothing to "fix". I don't use Facebook.


I disagree - it has to do with a generation unable to tell a person that they're a moron and need to learn some basic computing fundamentals. We have a person writing an article (in said link) to solve a problem because he probably heard a friend whine about how 'email is such a pain' when in reality it is friend being a moron rather than there something necessarily wrong with the traditional email applications that exist. It reminds me of the whole arguments about folders, directories etc. and how things should be easier - when in reality what needs to be taught to Joe and Jane Sixpack are organisational skills that are necessary not only on the real world but also when using a computer to deal information - be it documents created, emails or anything else one might think of existing in a file form.

Edited 2012-07-11 11:57 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by tupp
by lucas_maximus on Thu 12th Jul 2012 17:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by tupp"
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2009-08-18

While some people are desperately stupid.

And while I agree with you comment in this instance.

I have to say generally I think you are assuming too much.

People have different mental models of how the world works, I think many of us that are developers, power users etc share certain mental models.

For example, I still use Winamp and Organise all my songs into Albums ... Why do I do this, when there are better options available?

Because my mental model of my music library is modeled after a Vinyl Record Player.

My younger friends do not have this mental model and use things such as tags, genres etc ... while I am still stuck thinking in "There are two records to this album".

Currently a lot of how we interface with a computer is actually an expression of another persons mental model of how to represent the data in a system.

I am sure some will say "well what other ways are there, this works".

But directories and email is still someone's mental model of how something should have worked.

Saying someone is a moron because they have a different mental model of how the information is to be presented is a little ignorant IMO.

Edited 2012-07-12 18:11 UTC

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