Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Jul 2012 16:15 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "If we then use comScore's figure for total smartphone users (110 million) then the data would suggest that there are 330k Lumias in use in the US. This would have been accumulated over a sales period of about four months." Ouch. For a phone with such a huge marketing push, this is quite painful.
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RE: Estimate might be too low
by Nelson on Fri 13th Jul 2012 17:07 UTC in reply to "Estimate might be too low"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Using Nokia's Q1 numbers, they sold a total of 290k Lumia's on T-Mobile.

So what this article is saying is that Nokia sold zero Lumia 900s? Because, as you've shown, that would be impossible if they seeded anywhere near the amount you claim.

Something is obviously wrong here, and its what happens when you try to present numbers with an agenda.

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satan666 Member since:
2008-04-18

No, this happens when Nokia and Microsoft refuse to show the world the real numbers. Could it be because they are embarrassed?

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

So do you admit that the numbers in this article are impossibly wrong? Just to get a feel for your objectivity.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

No, this happens when Nokia and Microsoft refuse to show the world the real numbers. Could it be because they are embarrassed?

Nokia was never very open with model sales numbers...

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chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

Using Nokia's Q1 numbers, they sold a total of 290k Lumia's on T-Mobile.

So what this article is saying is that Nokia sold zero Lumia 900s? Because, as you've shown, that would be impossible if they seeded anywhere near the amount you claim.

The $25 million figure is undisputed. Maybe the iSuppli numbers are wrong, but likely not by much. Or many AT&T staff refused the offer to get a Lumia for free, which seems somewhat plausible given [1]. I expect that there has been some channel stuffing going on, too. Which would be outside comScore's users number but inside Nokia's sales number.

[1] http://www.intomobile.com/2012/04/12/att-reps-push-iphone-prospecti...

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

That has nothing at all to do with what I said. Re read my post.

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TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

"Using Nokia's Q1 numbers, they sold a total of 290k Lumia's on T-Mobile.

So what this article is saying is that Nokia sold zero Lumia 900s? Because, as you've shown, that would be impossible if they seeded anywhere near the amount you claim.

The $25 million figure is undisputed. Maybe the iSuppli numbers are wrong, but likely not by much. Or many AT&T staff refused the offer to get a Lumia for free, which seems somewhat plausible given [1]. I expect that there has been some channel stuffing going on, too. Which would be outside comScore's users number but inside Nokia's sales number.

[1] http://www.intomobile.com/2012/04/12/att-reps-push-iphone-prospecti...
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A very plausible explanation.

I didn't check into the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if one side was reporting what was shipped and the other what customers are actually buying.

It's very possible that Nokia shipped 500k devices and equally possible during that same time prior for only 100k devices to be purchased, leaving 400k in stock, unpurchased.

Now why do I point that out? Because that is exactly the difference between PC sales and Microsoft's sales claims. Microsoft doesn't report licenses purchased, just how many they've sold to vendors. One looks a lot better than the other. Which one tracks reality depends on how you look at the market, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the same kind of game played with WinPhone.

And yes, I expect Microsoft will announce Win8 will be the best selling version of Windows yet...for the same reason Vista and Win7 were.

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