Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 14th Jul 2012 00:04 UTC
In the News A fascinating difference in smartphone buying behaviour got highlighted today. In the US, Apple has double the market share of its nearest competitor, Samsung. However, in The Netherlands, the swamp I call home, the situation is completely reversed; Apple sits at 10% of the smartphone market, Samsung at 19.6%. Is this indicative of Europe as a whole? Could German, French, Polish, British, Spanish, Italian, etc. readers give local information from their own countries? I'm intrigued.
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How quickly people forget...
by krreagan on Sat 14th Jul 2012 05:43 UTC
krreagan
Member since:
2008-04-08

Pre-iphone, the carriers had all the cards and the manufacturers had little say in after sale operation. Free phones for two year contracts that the phone makers barely squeaked out a profit on razor thin profits. Android and Windows phones still don't upgrade except in rare cases. This keeps people buying phones on a regular schedule.

Apple comes along and changes the game! Samsung (phone division) would still be selling POS dumb phones for little or no profit without the advent of truly smart phones by Apple. No other phone was anywhere near the iPhone when it came out. It was in a league by itself. It was > three years before a real competitor hit the market so they obviously had not even considered it until it was too late.

Remember the $200 is also accompanied by >$1600 per contract period in monthly charges so the carriers are not hurting. The manufactures that can't adapt are going ba-bye! because they have poor managers... which most do... HTC, Nokia, RIM... Hell, Nokia and RIM will be gone in < a year. Either sold for scrap or Tango Uniform!

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Yossarian Member since:
2008-11-14

That's if you forget the very first iPhone was shitty: no 3G, no bluetooth, no video, shitty battery life. It was, well, an iPod Touch that could make calls.

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broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

That's if you forget the very first iPhone was shitty: no 3G, no bluetooth, no video, shitty battery life. It was, well, an iPod Touch that could make calls.


I was using an original iphone until this past november. It had bluetooth.

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henryb7318 Member since:
2012-07-15

It had both bluetooth, and when compared to other 'smart phones' insanely good battery life. It could not be an iPod Touch, because that didn't exist when the iPhone was launched.

Edited 2012-07-15 17:09 UTC

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RE: How quickly people forget...
by Beta on Sat 14th Jul 2012 18:31 in reply to "How quickly people forget..."
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

How quickly people are eager to paint the iPhone as the saviour of mobile.

Pre-iphone, the carriers had all the cards and the manufacturers had little say in after sale operation. Free phones for two year contracts that the phone makers barely squeaked out a profit on razor thin profits.

This is untrue, I paid for a phone with a contract in 2004, it was just under £200 with a monthly fee on top, it was a Sony Ericsson p910i.

Android and Windows phones still don't upgrade except in rare cases. This keeps people buying phones on a regular schedule.

Hyperbole. I’ve had a HTC Desire, HTC One X and a Galaxy Note all receive updates…

No other phone was anywhere near the iPhone when it came out.

That phone I mentioned above? 3 years old when that thing that didn’t support native apps came out.

RIM and Nokia are tripping over their own arses at the moment, but I’m surprised you put HTC in that bracket. Is it because they didn’t post growing profits that you assumed they will be going bye‐bye soon? They’re still more than healthy atm.

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