Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Jul 2012 23:39 UTC
Windows Ars Technica is running an interesting article about the Mail application on Windows 8. It's one of the first party Metro applications, and Ars' conclusion is that it's really, really not up to snuff - it can't even compare favourably to the mail application on Windows Phone. The sad thing is, however - this applies to virtually all Metro applications.
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RE: Comment by Luminair
by WorknMan on Sat 14th Jul 2012 08:55 UTC in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

the apps built into windows were never a windows strength. they are a joke really. how many jokes can be told about solitaire or internet explorer. please.


I was just about to say this. Who uses ANY of the built-in Windows apps anyway?

- Internet Explorer? Crap
- Media Player? Crap
- Windows Explorer? Brings the crappiness to a whole new level
- Paint? LMAO
- Mail? Not even included in Windows 7

Hell, even Notepad is pretty lame. I guess about the only one I use is Calculator, as it generally does what I need it to do (which, admittedly isn't much).

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by moondevil on Sat 14th Jul 2012 09:00 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I was just about to say this. Who uses ANY of the built-in Windows apps anyway?


I do.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by WorknMan on Sat 14th Jul 2012 09:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I do.


Much to learn, you still have ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by Neolander on Sat 14th Jul 2012 12:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Some of the bundled Windows software does have some use, IMO...

-The file explorer. It's far from perfect but it does the job, especially when tweaked with Classic Shell to bring back the up button. And unlike the alternatives, it's free. Still a shadow of its former XP self, though, in my opinion.
-Paint did save my life from time to time when I couldn't install something else (locked-up PC).
-MSconfig and the "management console" (or whatever it's called in English) are great for turning off bloatware when removing them through a fresh install is not an option.
-While Notepad is pretty bad, Windows 7's Wordpad is decent. As an example, it does properly open text files from all OSs. It can also offer Abiword-like basic formatted text editing (which is sadly enough for many people, who have never learned how to get the most of a word processor).
-And the basic photo viewer and scanning tool do their job, sometimes better than the manufacturer-provided bloatware for the latter.

Edited 2012-07-14 12:42 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Sat 14th Jul 2012 15:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

yes they have uses. I use them too, sideshows that they are. and the biggest feature of windows 8 is a new bunch of microsoft sideshows.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by zima on Wed 18th Jul 2012 18:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

-While Notepad is pretty bad, Windows 7's Wordpad is decent. As an example, it does properly open text files from all OSs. It can also offer Abiword-like basic formatted text editing (which is sadly enough for many people, who have never learned how to get the most of a word processor).

It's sad in the other direction - I mean, there's really nothing wrong when people could be generally happy with something like Abiword (even something between Abiword and Wordpad, really; preferably with a touch of Lyx or TeXmacs) ...and yet, they often still insists on MS Word.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by WereCatf on Sat 14th Jul 2012 13:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I was just about to say this. Who uses ANY of the built-in Windows apps anyway?


Hm, I use Explorer to browse and handle my files and I use Notepad, Calc and cmd.exe every now and then. More-or-less everything else I have replaced with better applications, though I still would like to find some application for helping me use multiple monitors more effectively.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by WorknMan on Sat 14th Jul 2012 19:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

though I still would like to find some application for helping me use multiple monitors more effectively.


http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by tidux on Sun 15th Jul 2012 01:47 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

I use IE... to download Firefox and Linux/Haiku isos.

I use cmd... if I don't have PuTTY installed and need telnet.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by foldingstock on Mon 16th Jul 2012 16:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
foldingstock Member since:
2008-10-30

I use IE... to download Firefox and Linux/Haiku isos.

I use cmd... if I don't have PuTTY installed and need telnet.


Telnet is not installed by default on Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008. Since you have to go to the trouble of installing it, might as well just use putty. ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by BluenoseJake on Sun 15th Jul 2012 01:59 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I use Media player on Windows, It works well for what it does. Better than iTunes on Windows, and it's already there.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by Soulbender on Sun 15th Jul 2012 10:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

It works well for what it does. Better than iTunes on Windows, and it's already there.


Considering what a pile of festering garbage iTunes on Windows is that's not much of an endorsement...:P

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I've still not found something better than Media Monkey for media management on Windows. Worth looking at if you haven't already.

Itunes on osX is still barely better than eye lids full of pencil shavings but at least the osX native build quality offers improvements over the Windows build. (if one has limited themselves with an Ithingy)

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by viton on Sun 15th Jul 2012 18:04 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

I guess about the only one I use is Calculator

And... they broke calculator in W7.
Now "programmer's mode" is separate from scientific. And switching between these modes clears the accumulator.

Edited 2012-07-15 18:06 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by peteo on Sun 15th Jul 2012 19:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
peteo Member since:
2011-10-05

It's called "broken mode".

Haha.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by WorknMan on Mon 16th Jul 2012 05:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13


And... they broke calculator in W7.
Now "programmer's mode" is separate from scientific. And switching between these modes clears the accumulator.


LOL, I'm definitely not a power user when it comes to calculator, which is probably why I never noticed ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by TomF on Mon 16th Jul 2012 21:34 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
TomF Member since:
2010-01-22

"the apps built into windows were never a windows strength. they are a joke really. how many jokes can be told about solitaire or internet explorer. please.


I was just about to say this. Who uses ANY of the built-in Windows apps anyway?

- Internet Explorer? Crap
"

nothing personal, I know how you feel and I agree - but you would be surprised how many companies (customers of us) still use IE in some version as company standard :/

Tom UK

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