Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Jul 2012 23:39 UTC
Windows Ars Technica is running an interesting article about the Mail application on Windows 8. It's one of the first party Metro applications, and Ars' conclusion is that it's really, really not up to snuff - it can't even compare favourably to the mail application on Windows Phone. The sad thing is, however - this applies to virtually all Metro applications.
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That's a start
by shotsman on Sat 14th Jul 2012 18:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Not gonna buy it"
shotsman
Member since:
2005-07-22

but most of my development work is aimed at Server 2008.
The Server 2012 preview I've tried is next to useless in its current form.
If we can get it looking like 2008 + start menu and quick launch then it might have a future.
Not every company is willor or even able to make their apps work in the new sys management environment that Server 2012 delivers.
As I have said before, enforcing this mega change on us without a 'ok you can revert to your old behaviour but in the next version you won't be able to' escape our new way of working.
Sadly they've got for the all or nothing approach. This is a classic 'how to make your loyal customers thing again before buying anything else from you' move.

Most of my customers are sadly wedded to Microsoft right down to SQLServer, DTC, Biztalk and MSMQ. If they can't buy Server 2008 beyond the end of the year then I know of atl east three who will up sticks and move lock stock and everything to RHEL. They know that they will feel a lot of pain but they feel it will be worth it.
The move will mean purchases moving from Microft to RedHat(OS), IBM(MQ) and Oracle(database).

If enough vote with their feet then perhaps with SP1 we might get back what they've taken away.

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RE: That's a start
by ze_jerkface on Mon 16th Jul 2012 00:16 in reply to "That's a start"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

The move will mean purchases moving from Microft to RedHat(OS), IBM(MQ) and Oracle(database).

If enough vote with their feet then perhaps with SP1 we might get back what they've taken away.


Before that happens Ballmer and Sinofsky will be deemed idiots of the year for ignoring enterprise in a hopeless attempt at catching the iPad. The fact that they are even forcing Metro on Server shows how far off the rails into crazyland they have gone.

Sinofsky is afraid of pirates downloading Server 2012 in an attempt at avoiding Metro-down-your-throat. Nothing says quality software like trying to ensure that even pirates have no choice. Sinofsky is a little Steve-Jobs wannabe dictator who knows damn well that letting the people choose would mean a majority vote against him. That's why he is forcing it.

Can't wait til the little fucking pest is removed by shareholders.

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RE[2]: That's a start
by Soulbender on Mon 16th Jul 2012 03:21 in reply to "RE: That's a start"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

The fact that they are even forcing Metro on Server


...WTF? Really? That's the stupidest idea ever. Is that really true?

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RE[2]: That's a start
by cyrilleberger on Mon 16th Jul 2012 08:03 in reply to "RE: That's a start"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

Before that happens Ballmer and Sinofsky will be deemed idiots of the year for ignoring enterprise in a hopeless attempt at catching the iPad.


Dunno about the title of idiot of the year, but Ballmer has already won the one of worst CEO of the year:

"Without a doubt, Mr. Ballmer is the worst CEO of a large publicly traded American company today." (forbes)

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