Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 14th Jul 2012 03:10 UTC
Games "People who don't play video games would be forgiven if they turned on an Xbox 360 and didn't realize it was a device used to primarily play games. The first screen you see on the Xbox 360 Dashboard is often a mixture of ads for all sorts of goods and services, and many times games are in the minority of ad slots. The latest redesign increased the ad space that can be sold to advertisers, and that in turn increased this problem. Let's be clear, it is a problem." No kidding. I pay for Xbox Live, yet I'm being bombarded by useless crap ads. It's ridiculous. And yet I don't stop playing. It seems as if there's a solution to this problem in there somewhere, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
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RE[4]: This is a problem?
by BluenoseJake on Sun 15th Jul 2012 02:18 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: This is a problem?"
BluenoseJake
Member since:
2005-08-11

Good for you. Ads are the way that websites keep their content free, and you block them all. I also use adblock plus, but I turn it off on sites I like, so I can help support them.

There was a discussion about that on OSNews a while ago, and websites need that revenue to survive. Sometimes blocking ads is selfish.

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RE[5]: This is a problem?
by ssokolow on Sun 15th Jul 2012 04:19 in reply to "RE[4]: This is a problem?"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

Good for you. Ads are the way that websites keep their content free, and you block them all. I also use adblock plus, but I turn it off on sites I like, so I can help support them.

There was a discussion about that on OSNews a while ago, and websites need that revenue to survive. Sometimes blocking ads is selfish.


I did mention that I make an exception for Project Wonderful.

As for the rest, blocking ads serves several purposes: It's part of my efforts to minimize how trackable I am, it makes my browser significantly more performant (and my PC is almost brand new), it protects me against certain types of 0-day exploits, and, most importantly, it keeps the advertisers off my blacklist.

(I tend to boycott any vendor that wastes their money annoying me, rather than pouring it into good service or R&D and my general policy is "If I want it, I'll search for it. If not, you're on the blacklist.")

Heck, it's one of the more ordinary things I've done on the tracking front. Given how much work I've already been putting into using things like NoScript, RefControl, and fine-tuned tweaks to my browser's headers (see Panopticlick) to make my browser difficult to track, it'd be foolish of me to allow ads.

Besides. If a site has a problem with me, I have no problem moving to some other site that funds itself in a more palatable manner. In fact, I'm in the process of migrating off Google's free offerings to the greatest extent possible.

I get the impression you think they're somehow entitled to make money off every single visitor. I don't know about you, but I think a TV channel that managed to force you to watch commercials or a supermarket that forced you to spend money before you leave wouldn't have very many customers.

I've also read interesting arguments on the viewpoint that, if you induce your visitors to turn off their ad-blocking systems when they still have no interest in buying the products, then you're essentially committing a more indirect form of click fraud against the people paying to advertise on your site.

EDIT: Here's one of the relevant posts:

http://www.less-broken.com/blog/2011/11/why-ad-blocking-is-not-mora...

Edited 2012-07-15 04:39 UTC

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RE[5]: This is a problem?
by ilovebeer on Sun 15th Jul 2012 06:13 in reply to "RE[4]: This is a problem?"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

There was a discussion about that on OSNews a while ago, and websites need that revenue to survive. Sometimes blocking ads is selfish.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Blocking ads is in no way selfish what-so-ever. No user is obligated to view ads, much less click on them, or further yet, spend their money.

Also, revenue does not accrue by you looking at an ad on the side of a message forum. Or the top. Or splashed all over the place. If you don't click the links, no revenue is generated.

Lastly, most people don't click on ads, whether they see them or not. Ad-blockers do not cause any lost revenue from people who have no intention of clicking ads or buying crap in the first place.

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