Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2012 23:06 UTC
In the News Okay, so this is entirely new to me. Sparrow is was an email client for Mac OS X and iOS (and Windows), which brought a decent Gmail experience to these platforms - as opposed to Apple's own not-so-good Gmail support and Google's Gmail iOS application which, well, is just a webpage. Google has now acquired Sparrow, and basically all hell has broken loose, to the point of Rian van der Merwe writing that 'we' lost "faith in a philosophy that we thought was a sustainable way to ensure a healthy future for independent software development, where most innovation happens".
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bassbeast
Member since:
2007-11-11

I'd say it was a good post too...with one exception and that is this: Frankly FOSS doesn't "guarantee" anything anymore than proprietary, it only gives the possibility, nothing more, that it may continue.

How many projects are lying dead right now on SourceForge? If one were to look at the top 100 FOSS programs from 2000, how many of them are still around?

Honestly i don't know the answers but I bet many are gone because just using the software doesn't magically make you a developer, nor does it give the fans enough capital to hire a full time dev team to support it.

In the end i say just use what works and if they go away tomorrow? Well if the software was in any way popular I'm sure someone will come along happy to take those users, if not? Well then you'll just have to find another program.

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Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

I'd say it was a good post too...with one exception and that is this: Frankly FOSS doesn't "guarantee" anything anymore than proprietary, it only gives the possibility, nothing more, that it may continue.

That is the point. Duh.

Moreover, given how popular Sparrow was, I think it would have had no problem going on.

The point is that it can't. That. Is. The. Point.

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Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

How many projects are lying dead right now on SourceForge? If one were to look at the top 100 FOSS programs from 2000, how many of them are still around?

We have to remember that a lot of programs simply have not use nowadays. In other cases, a lot of users have found better free/libre alternative programs, etc.

We have to be aware that Sourceforge is a not a good representative for long-life free/libre software, a lot of programs are developed and stopped there. Unless it's a specific case, people have better results going with selected software and combined efforts, I can talk about my case and I use
- The Linux kernel.
- VLC.
- Firefox.
- Selected programs from http://www.kde.org/applications/internet/ http://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/ http://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/ http://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/ http://www.kde.org/applications/system/
- Etc.
since many years ago. It has been a safe bet in my case, but anyone can also benefit from equivalent software selections, make things to improve software, etc.

Edited 2012-07-22 11:19 UTC

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

> How many projects are lying dead right now on SourceForge? If one were to look at the top 100 FOSS programs from 2000, how many of them are still around?

We have to remember that a lot of programs simply have not use nowadays. In other cases, a lot of users have found better free/libre alternative programs, etc.

You have to remember, while escaping into this argument, that the scenario is pretty much the same with closed software...

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Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

if not? Well then you'll just have to find another program.

That's another problem :-( . A lot of proprietary software sellers are not interested in the free market and... will put severe obstacles to you and me to stop us finding another program :-(

Some of them have been sent to trial and convicted, for example:
http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX...
Emails about the "problem" of "Office documents to be rendered very well by other peoples browsers" and employees being given the order "make sure that Office very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities".

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

More FUD.

In some cases this maybe true, but this is usually in terms of bespoke software not commercial.

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