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RE[3]: How to live from open source.
by No it isnt on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 10:45
in reply to "RE[2]: How to live from open source."
So Nero stopped sucking again? Last time I used it, it was an overly complex resource hog.
I'm also not sure what you imagine "professionals" expect from video playing applications. MPlayer and VLC are popular for what they are, not for how well they work in some imaginary professional video watching market. Microsoft's and Apple's offerings aren't nearly as good.
RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by Nth_Man on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 13:25
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."
RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by lucas_maximus on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 17:03
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."
RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by Savior on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 17:14
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."
I'm also not sure what you imagine "professionals" expect from video playing applications. MPlayer and VLC are popular for what they are, not for how well they work in some imaginary professional video watching market.
I am no video professional, yet I needn't be one to see how VLC cannot get something as elementary as DVD playback right. While the movie is usually OK, the menu handling is abysmal.
About the article: I agree with the people who say open source is not the solution. It is a possibility, and nothing more. For an easy glimpse of how an OSS email client (just to stay on topic) can mess up, have a look at Kmail 2.
RE[3]: How to live from open source.
by _txf_ on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 10:48
in reply to "RE[2]: How to live from open source."
VLC, Mplayer
What is it that professionals expect from a video player? Frankly VLC plays far more files, and is far more tolerant than something like QT. I know lots of professionals that use VLC. Show me a better proprietary video player that supports all the options from VLC.
Nero runs circles around K3b.
Recently Nero has been turning into horrible trash (especially the interface). Plus I don't know of anybody that uses the more advanced features from nero. K3B is far better if you just want a simple interface that just works.
I'm not entirely disputing your previous point, but the examples I just mentioned really don't count.
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RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by lucas_maximus on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 17:04
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."
RE[3]: How to live from open source.
by Gone fishing on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 11:27
in reply to "RE[2]: How to live from open source."
At the end of the day the developers need to bring money home, and there is none to be had when your software is 100% available for the others to take, and you cannot sell services on top of it.
This is the reason why most open source desktop applications suck
This is the reason why most open source desktop applications suck
You make a reasonable point, Lunduke has being saying similar things on the Linux action show. I agree Open-source development is likely to be faster / better if funding is more obvious and available.
Then you blow it out of the water by saying Open-source software is crap (sorry you specify desktop) as presumably you realize that your argument would immediately fail if we considered server software. Now VLC / Mplayer being crap, I believe not, I can think of many proprietary media players that are far worse Winamp, Realplayer or even Windows media player. GIMP is good it may not be as good as Photoshop but is better than most proprietary graphics editors. Last time I used Nero it sucked, maybe it has improved but for the burning I do I don't need or want bloatware or the rest of the crap that comes with Nero.
Finally you make a reasonable point about how Libre office has made good progress due to funding from Sun - raising the point that funding is important.
Good luck with the finding of quality Windows shareware sorting through the maleware and porn, personally I pleased it's something I don't do anymore.
RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by Nth_Man on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 13:30
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."
Good luck with the finding of quality Windows shareware sorting through the malware and porn
And through crippleware (after a while, people find that the software is severely limited), closed formats, inability to audit or improve the software and a lot of factors that originated the word "shameware".
personally I pleased it's something I don't do anymore.
Me, too :-)
RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by zima on Thu 26th Jul 2012 16:08
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."
Now VLC / Mplayer being crap, I believe not, I can think of many proprietary media players that are far worse Winamp
Winamp is far superior with music ...and just a front-end to external playback mechanisms with video (which can be worse or better than the internal playback mechanism of VLC... http://kyon.pl/img/9115.html http://kyon.pl/img/17235.html ).
Also, I wouldn't call MPlayer (which I prefer for video BTW) a desktop application, it sucks at that - it's more a library used by front-ends, analogous to Winamp & external.
RE[3]: How to live from open source.
by neutralTTY on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 11:58
in reply to "RE[2]: How to live from open source."
RE[4]: How to live from open source.
by Nth_Man on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 13:39
in reply to "RE[3]: How to live from open source."





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Like Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP, VLC, Mplayer, K3b, Libre Office
and Windows shareware is noted for its excellence? "
Most of the Firefox, Thunderbird developers work for Mozilla.
GIMP, VLC, Mplayer are developers get their money from other sources and lets be honest they are way off what professionals expect.
Nero runs circles around K3b.
Libre Office only got so far thanks to Sun's money.
As for shareware it depends where you look.