Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 12:57 UTC
Google Without giving any detailed information, Madfinger Games announced that because the piracy rates of their game Dead Trigger were so high on Android, they made the game available for free. This sucks balls. I'm interested in more detailed statistics, especially where, exactly, the piracy rate is highest, considering you can only get paid Google Play applications in 31 countries, and then, often only with a credit card (which many people outside of the US don't have and/or use). It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if those piracy rates mostly come from places without paid applications support and/or with lousy payment options. In any case, Google needs to get its act together with the Play Store.
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RE[3]: What about kids?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 14:10 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What about kids?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

We use debit cards for everything. Credit cards are a rarity, and almost exclusively used for travel. Our entire payment system is built around debit cards - both in real stores and online.

My Google Play/App Store/WP Marketplace accounts use my parents' credit card. They have one for travel. It's my only option. For many of my friends who don't have credit cards or parents with a card, they're out of luck.

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RE[4]: What about kids?
by _txf_ on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 14:15 in reply to "RE[3]: What about kids?"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

I don't use my credit cards a lot. But I do have them.

You are aware you can just ask your bank for one ?

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RE[5]: What about kids?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 14:28 in reply to "RE[4]: What about kids?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I don't use my credit cards a lot. But I do have them.

You are aware you can just ask your bank for one ?


A credit card costs money. On top of that, it's a cultural thing. A least here in The Netherlands, credit cards carry a stigma, because they're associated with spending money you don't have and getting into serious financial trouble. People are actually afraid of them, and would rather not own one. As far as payment methods go, credit cards are pretty damn expensive.

With a debit card you spend the money you actually own. That seems like a small difference, but it's actually a huge conceptual shift.

Edited 2012-07-23 14:29 UTC

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RE[4]: What about kids?
by voidlogic on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 14:19 in reply to "RE[3]: What about kids?"
voidlogic Member since:
2005-09-03

My debit card works anywhere my credit card works online... is this not the case with European debit cards?

I wasn't even considering debit and credit cards to be different in terms of this discussion...

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RE[5]: What about kids?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 14:23 in reply to "RE[4]: What about kids?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

is this not the case with European debit cards?


Nope. They are two entirely different things, and not interchangeable. Play wants a credit card, not a debit card.

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RE[5]: What about kids?
by tanishaj on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 14:25 in reply to "RE[4]: What about kids?"
tanishaj Member since:
2010-12-22

My debit card works anywhere my credit card works online... is this not the case with European debit cards?


This is pretty much a U.S. phenomenon. Even in Canada, there is nothing like the "VISA debit" cards you see in the US. Debit cards and credit cards are very different animals. If a merchant only accepts credit, debit card carriers are out-of-luck.

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RE[4]: What about kids?
by henderson101 on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 15:35 in reply to "RE[3]: What about kids?"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

We use debit cards for everything.


Yes here too. Except, in the UK our Debit Cards have a provider linked to them. They still act *just like* a Debit Card (money comes from personal bank account, lack of funds will prevent use etc), but because they are Visa/MasterCard (majority, some used to be Solo), they will also work anywhere a "credit card" is required. Personally, my Debit Card is with Barclays and is a Visa Debit. It works everywhere, world wide, where Visa is accepted. If your cards don't work like that, well, they should.

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RE[4]: What about kids?
by IvoLimmen on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 19:32 in reply to "RE[3]: What about kids?"
IvoLimmen Member since:
2005-07-06

I myself also live in the Netherlands. Ever since I started working I own a credit card. Even though the name implies credit does not mean you can use it wisely: everything I pay is automatically subtracted from my normal account. I don't pay extra fees or pay my stuff in parts each month. I think a lot of fellow Dutchmen don't know about this option and therefore don't use a credit card. I have to say that I only own a credit card simply because I want to buy stuff online and if it is not a Dutch shop you either need PayPal (that can actually pay from your normal account; I linked it to my ING-account) or credit card.

Personally my travel experience is weird; I do bring my credit card to every country I visit, but every place I go has to option to simply use my debit card (And I prefer that because the credit card cost extra).
I even had that option in Thailand in 2001 (yes I was stunned by that too).

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RE[5]: What about kids?
by Bobthearch on Tue 24th Jul 2012 00:32 in reply to "RE[4]: What about kids?"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

In "the States" you get a debit card every time you open a checking account. My bank uses Visa, but I suppose there are others that use Mastercard instead. Use the debit card just like a credit card, at any place that accepts credit cards, and the purchase is deducted right from the checking account.

I can't imagine paying cash for everything. Cash is easily lost, stolen, and destroyed. Take a vacation or make a major shopping trip to town and you'd have to have hundreds, or thousands, of dollars in cash. Who carries that much cash around nowadays?

It's especially difficult, or at least inconvenient, to even buy gas (petrol) without a Visa/Mastercard since any modern station has pay-at-the-pump. Many stations ~only~ have pay-at-the-pump, especially late at night.

Interesting to learn that other countries' banking habits and customs are so different. I've been to Australia a few times and banking seems very similar to the U.S. system, with credit/debit cards being very common.

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RE[4]: What about kids?
by JAlexoid on Tue 24th Jul 2012 01:06 in reply to "RE[3]: What about kids?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Irony is that in NL it's a total PITA that people don't have a real option for a web payment enabled debit card(like Visa virtual - http://www.visaeurope.com/en/cardholders/prepaid/virtual_cards.aspx )

Or at least, I haven't noticed when I was there.

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