Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2012 23:06 UTC
In the News Okay, so this is entirely new to me. Sparrow is was an email client for Mac OS X and iOS (and Windows), which brought a decent Gmail experience to these platforms - as opposed to Apple's own not-so-good Gmail support and Google's Gmail iOS application which, well, is just a webpage. Google has now acquired Sparrow, and basically all hell has broken loose, to the point of Rian van der Merwe writing that 'we' lost "faith in a philosophy that we thought was a sustainable way to ensure a healthy future for independent software development, where most innovation happens".
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RE: Comment by sicofante
by marcp on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 16:33 UTC in reply to "Comment by sicofante"
marcp
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2007-11-23

If earning money [not writing the actual code. Joy of coding, anybody?] is your only motivation for creating and developing software, then you should probobly not do it. Otherwise you will make more harm and damages, than good. You will produce code of low quality, you will release it earlier, you will not test it, and all of this will be the result of one pursue: money. More money, less time to waste, worse code, less time to focus on a code of good quality. Your clients [otherwise called in open source community: users, friends] will suffer data loss, security failures and other unpleasant situations. All because of your greed and ongoing pursue for getting more and more money. You will end up being completely disconnected from the community of the users of your application, your ass will be sued continuously by dissapointed users, and there will be not much joy left.

I don't like that. If you like it - go ahead and create this filthy karma for yourself.

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RE[2]: Comment by sicofante
by lucas_maximus on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 19:48 in reply to "RE: Comment by sicofante"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

If earning money [not writing the actual code. Joy of coding, anybody?] is your only motivation for creating and developing software, then you should probobly not do it. Otherwise you will make more harm and damages, than good. You will produce code of low quality, you will release it earlier, you will not test it, and all of this will be the result of one pursue: money. More money, less time to waste, worse code, less time to focus on a code of good quality. Your clients [otherwise called in open source community: users, friends] will suffer data loss, security failures and other unpleasant situations. All because of your greed and ongoing pursue for getting more and more money. You will end up being completely disconnected from the community of the users of your application, your ass will be sued continuously by dissapointed users, and there will be not much joy left.


What an epic fail.

It like saying that every person that has a shop to make money only cares about making money and not their customers. If you have dissatisfied customers, you won't have repeat business.

Daisy Hosting I knew recently lost £500,000 contract with one of the largest charities in the UK

Some of us believe in providing quality code whatever the license is. Just because someone produces code for money doesn't mean they don't enjoy it ... what utter rubbish.

Bespoke proprietary software by agencies that don't care tend to be crap.

But we had a Web based Video library for the website, created by one guy and he did all the support and updates ... was one of the best products I have ever used. Very reliable and we only had the old codec problem.

I recently bought a bike from a bloke, and he was excellent ... cheap shipping (from the UK to Spain), beat the big guys on prices and was really friendly to boot and put in a few extra fun things.

Just because someone is making money doing something doesn't mean they are just in it to make money.

I am sorry you think that every business just wants to screw you over but that just isn't true.

Edited 2012-07-23 19:55 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by sicofante
by marcp on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 20:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sicofante"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

Just because someone is making money doing something doesn't mean they are just in it to make money.


That is NOT what I meant. First: I was not talking about any and every business. Second: I was talking in favor of open source. I was pointing out positive sides of Open Source by giving examples of close source failures. I realize it was some kind of generalization. I'm sure there are some good developers who write excellent code under closed source agreements. However: we don't know how many of them do it, because there is no access to their source code.

Thank you and have a nice day.

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RE[3]: Comment by sicofante
by Gone fishing on Mon 23rd Jul 2012 20:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sicofante"
Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

Why do you insist on being so aggressive your response has almost nothing to do with marcp's post - epic fail is just rude. Your response is a proprietary software fanboy rant and that is getting very boring.

Edited 2012-07-23 20:34 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by sicofante
by Soulbender on Tue 24th Jul 2012 04:32 in reply to "RE: Comment by sicofante"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

If earning money [not writing the actual code. Joy of coding, anybody?] is your only motivation for creating and developing software, then you should probobly not do it.


Who said it is *only* for the money?

You will produce code of low quality, you will release it earlier, you will not test it, and all of this will be the result of one pursue: money


Sure, if your only motivation is money but that is often not the case. There are of course those who's only motivation is money but far from all closed-source developers are motivated only by money.

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