Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Jul 2012 22:18 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes The article I'm about to link to, by Oliver Reichenstein, is pretty terrible, but it's a good way for me to bring up something I've been meaning to talk about. First, the article: "Apple has been working on its file system and with iOS it had almost killed the concept of folders - before reintroducing them with a peculiar restriction: only one level! With Mountain Lion it brings its one folder level logic to OSX. What could be the reason for such a restrictive measure?" So, where does this crusade against directory structures (not file systems, as the article aggravatingly keeps stating) come from?
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To the point
by Ford Prefect on Wed 25th Jul 2012 22:30 UTC
Ford Prefect
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2006-01-16

A good commentary, Thom. This is the second level of file-based vendor lock-in after the proprietary file format thing just doesn't work like back in the days any more.

It is now wonder that it comes from cell phones. It reminds me well of my feature phone that can run all these nifty Java ME applications, but I am not allowed to upload them myself.

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RE: To the point
by OSNevvs on Thu 26th Jul 2012 06:49 in reply to "To the point"
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2009-08-20

And what about opening a directory with 15 MP3 files (an album)? Should I remember all tune file names? And search for them individually to add them to my playlist? How convenient is that? ;)

Always reinventing the wheel. Always inventing non-existent problems. Always trying to look "inovative". It reminds those who always try to "reinvent" the email concept. I just wish the Linux folks (and MS) don't jump into this bandwagon like blind sheeps.

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RE[2]: To the point
by aliquis on Thu 26th Jul 2012 07:36 in reply to "RE: To the point"
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2005-07-23

You of course search stored data about your data.

In this case things like ID3 tags.

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RE: To the point
by Lobotomik on Fri 27th Jul 2012 08:12 in reply to "To the point"
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2006-01-03

I don't agree, really. I think files themselves are an awful abstraction for user data, and a hierarchical store makes them even worse. It forces you to generate names for everything, and to think of where to store things. That is a job that should be left to the computer! Why should there be a name for every picture in a thousands-long collection? Either I will have to cook it up, or put up with a serial number, or some such.

I think that the current trend of showing data as content, rather than files, organized by metadata (à la music manager or photo app)is the way to go. And it is better to keep it separate from file system management. I've seen MANY people TOTALLY FAIL at understanding the difference between pictures or music as named files in the explorer, with OS-provided previews and views, or as objects in their media manager, with different names (if any) and organized in a totally different fashion.

Now, the way filing-by-metadata is implemented in iOS SUCKS A LOT. It is one thing to have a sea of data units accessed by content, and one, very different one, to force you to only access them with the app they were created with, or maybe some specialist app.

Why is it so difficult to add or retrieve an attachment in an email message on an iPhone? For example, how do you attach four pictures to an email message? And why can't I see any data other than pics when I plug the phone into a computer? Of course, the answer is: because Apple thinks you are an idiot, and a thief, and a cash cow that they want shepherded through their channels (iTunes, appStore). It is a pity that such nice devices with such a beautifully made OS are so restrictive due to such a poor conception of the human being, but that is the way it is, and it makes me want to flee to Android.

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