Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Jul 2012 00:28 UTC
Games Valve's Gabe Newall on Linux and Windows 8: "We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It's a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we'll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that's true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality."
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They are doing it wrong
by sukru on Thu 26th Jul 2012 07:45 UTC
sukru
Member since:
2006-11-19

Normally, I would expect a monopoly to use their existing established product (Windows 7) to force themselves into a new market (real tablets, not old stuff).

They they seem to be doing it in the other way around. Windows 8 is effectively pushing their unfinished tablet interface into existing stable desktop monopoly.

Nobody would complain if Metro was tablet only. But they force it so much into the desktop that they even disabled hacks that brought back regular desktop and start menu in the latest releases.

Good going, whoever is in charge of decisions at Microsoft!

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RE: They are doing it wrong
by ThomasFuhringer on Thu 26th Jul 2012 09:27 in reply to "They are doing it wrong"
ThomasFuhringer Member since:
2007-01-25

Same with the 'Ribbon'. They have to force it upon us because if users were given an option they might vote with their feet.

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RE[2]: They are doing it wrong
by Lion on Thu 26th Jul 2012 10:40 in reply to "RE: They are doing it wrong"
Lion Member since:
2007-03-22

The ribbon was forced onto us because people are by nature resistant to change. Personally however, I think the ribbon was a fantastic decision for Office and works well in many other apps now too.
As to Metro. I don't see why people think it's as disruptive as they do. I am a full-time Windows8 RP user at present and probably only see the start screen a dozen times per day at most, and I don't consistently use any metro apps. Even if metro isn't as polished as it could be, you barely have to interact with it.
Seemingly significant but mostly aesthetic UI changes are par-for-the-course in this industry anyway. The move from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is nowhere near as big an interface shift as MacOS 9 to MacOS X, but even that left the majority of usage patterns in-tact.

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RE[2]: They are doing it wrong
by kaiwai on Thu 26th Jul 2012 15:42 in reply to "RE: They are doing it wrong"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Same with the 'Ribbon'. They have to force it upon us because if users were given an option they might vote with their feet.


Hi, I'm a Mac, and because Mac OS X (like most other operating systems prior to the rise of Windows) has a global menu I get to keep the menu and have ribbon - the best of both worlds!

You can blame Microsoft and their decision to throw convention out the window in favour of bolting a menu onto each application resulting in the perennial clusterf--k that is Windows usability or there lack of.

Edited 2012-07-26 15:43 UTC

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