Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jul 2012 12:41 UTC
Gnome Honest question. Do you think the GNOME project is as healthy today as it was, say, 4 years ago? Benjamin Otte explains that no, it isn't. GNOME lacks developers, goals, mindshare and users. The situation as he describes it, is a lot more dire than I personally thought.
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RE[2]: Comment by zizban
by sj87 on Sat 28th Jul 2012 05:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by zizban"
sj87
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2007-12-16

KDE folks didn't make any distinction either - KDE4 was designed around 2006-2007 when there were no such things as tablets or touch interfaces. To my mind the KDE desktop is out-dated and legacy, not something we should make a glorified example of Things Done Right.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by Nth_Man on Sat 28th Jul 2012 10:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
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2010-05-16

KDE4 was designed around 2006-2007 when there were no such things as tablets or touch interfaces.

I remember people using Nintendo DS, and that was launched in 2004.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by Carewolf on Sat 28th Jul 2012 10:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
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2005-09-08

At the time of KDE4 the discussion was not desktop vs tablet, it was desktop vs netbook and with dreams of being on a mobile phone at some point, so right from the get go KDE4 (well Plasma actually) was designed to have multiple different interfaces using a shared framework but providing very different experiences

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RE[4]: Comment by zizban
by phoenix on Mon 30th Jul 2012 20:28 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by zizban"
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2005-07-11

And plasma-desktop vs plasma-netbook was a great separation that worked really well. Surprisingly enough, plasma-netbook works equally well on full desktop systems, even going back to Ubuntu 8.04 / 9.10 days.

Haven't looked into PlasmaActive as yet.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by segedunum on Sat 28th Jul 2012 13:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
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2005-07-06

To my mind the KDE desktop is out-dated and legacy, not something we should make a glorified example of Things Done Right.

I don't know how since KDE is actually a Unix/Linux desktop that works and has the underlying framework to make what they did with KDE 4 (i.e. keeping pace with Vista/7/OS X) onwards sustainable. From that point of view it is certainly an example of Things Done Right(tm).

If KDE is outdated and legacy I really have no idea what that makes Gnome, or where that puts the state of open source desktops.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by shmerl on Sun 29th Jul 2012 03:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Firstly I see nothing outdated there, it's functional and good/modern looking, modular and extensible.

Secondly, the distinction obviously appeared when the idea of tablets was widely introduced. That's what I meant by "from the start". I.e. from the start of tablets period KDE made an effort to approach them with distinct design, while Gnome didn't.

Edited 2012-07-29 03:33 UTC

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