Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jul 2012 12:41 UTC
Gnome Honest question. Do you think the GNOME project is as healthy today as it was, say, 4 years ago? Benjamin Otte explains that no, it isn't. GNOME lacks developers, goals, mindshare and users. The situation as he describes it, is a lot more dire than I personally thought.
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segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

Personally, my biggest beef with KDE4 is plasma. It's buggy as hell

No it isn't. After several years it's become pretty stable now and has allowed KDE to do an awful lot more than could ever have been possible with the old Kicker - or whatever the core of the desktop actually was back then. It's your view against mine.

Also, a minor annoyance with kde is that from a designer standpoint, everything seems designed with oxygen in mind. It seems that application designer has utilized oxygen-only features in the designs.....

I have no idea what that means. What designs?

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

No it isn't. After several years it's become pretty stable now


I don't know why, but I still keep having Plasma crash on me every time I use KDE for more than 10 minutes. Granted, I have only tried KDE with Kubuntu on two different VMware machines, but I don't know if that really makes any difference.

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boudewijn Member since:
2006-03-05

I really wonder what you are doing then... There must be something rather particular that you _always_ do within ten minutes that causes a crash. I wonder if it would be possible for you to make a video of your first ten minutes until the crash so we can try to figure out what that particular action that most other people don't execute is.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't know why, but I still keep having Plasma crash on me every time I use KDE for more than 10 minutes.

Well, video drivers are finicky things and apparently they are in Gnome 3, but, ever since about 4.2 or 4.3 I've been able to use KDE and openSUSE quite happily for 8 hours every day for work. I have quite a few 'Plasmoids' installed and do quite a bit of file management and sys admin work. I don't think it gets much more intensive than that.

I've had openSUSE's silly applet updater crash a few times, but that's about it.

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ple_mono Member since:
2005-07-26

No it isn't. After several years it's become pretty stable now and has allowed KDE to do an awful lot more than could ever have been possible with the old Kicker - or whatever the core of the desktop actually was back then. It's your view against mine.

Well, maybe i worded that badly."buggy as hell" isn't quite true, but if there's any component of the KDE desktop i feel bugs out more often than the rest of the DE, then plasma is it. Misplaced widgets, missing redraw/resize and such for the most part.

I have no idea what that means. What designs?

Sorry about that. I meant that a majority of KDE applications, seeming to primarily be developed with the oxygen engine/style in mind, rather than staying "style-agnostic" if you will.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

I am using the Plastiq-style all of the time and did not note any problems there but then maybe I am to used to it. Can you please give an example for that so we know what you refer to?

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