Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jul 2012 12:41 UTC
Gnome Honest question. Do you think the GNOME project is as healthy today as it was, say, 4 years ago? Benjamin Otte explains that no, it isn't. GNOME lacks developers, goals, mindshare and users. The situation as he describes it, is a lot more dire than I personally thought.
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boudewijn
Member since:
2006-03-05

Yes.. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, and I do have a certain confirmation bias here, because of the eight laptops in this house, seven are lenovo, one is asus and all of them plus the desktop have an intel card, so not much variety, but nobody has a crashing plasma desktop. That, and the fact that millions of people do use KDE4 daily, does mean that plasma crashing is not the usual thing, which in turn means that investigation is needed to figure out why that crashes for you and werecatf.

Unfortunately, I'm just a lowly application developer myself, so I don't track the plasma bugs. But if you have a bug with a backtrace, maybe I can get some bright idea about what's going on anyway :-)

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Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I know this will sound crazy, but I think in my case it was a KMS thing, because on that same system, Gnome 3 refused to run with gnome-shell and went into fallback mode, which then immediately crashed as well. It crashed more gracefully, dumping X altogether and putting me back at the command line (I rarely use a login manager). In KDE, instead of dumping X it locked up the video frame buffer (as near as I can tell) and I had to force kill X from another login shell.

After a couple of kernel updates, I was finally able to get Gnome to launch properly in gnome-shell on both the Intel GMA and the Nvidia card. I still had lockups in KDE though.

Again, this was all about a year ago on hardware I've since reloaded with Windows and sold to a client, so unfortunately I can't provide a bug report. I also have stopped using Arch Linux altogether for unrelated reasons.

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boudewijn Member since:
2006-03-05

Aw, then there isn't much anybody can do, is there? Pity :-(

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