Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2012 10:10 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In case you were still doubting whether or not Apple's lawsuits against Samsung were a case of 'if you can't compete, litigate', Samsung's financial results should seal the deal. The company shipped round and about 50 million smartphones, twice as many smartphones as Apple shipped. So, not only is Android doing better on smartphones than iOS, there's now also a single manufacturer outselling Apple. Oh, the next avenue for de-emphasizing this achievement has already reared its head: Samsung has a wider portfolio, and as such, the comparison isn't fair. Nonsense, of course - Volkswagen sells lots more models than, say, Mazda, but that doesn't mean you can't compare them. Maybe, just maybe, having a wide portfolio of devices to meet the various different needs of the market is simply a very good strategy. It'll be interesting to see just how much Apple can take back with the next iPhone, especially since the full potential of the Galaxy SIII hasn't been realised yet and will be accounted for in Samsung's next quarter as well. Fun, such a fight between titans. Just too bad one of the two titans plays dirty by opting for the courtroom.
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RE: Getting tired of iSheep
by kristoph on Sat 28th Jul 2012 18:47 UTC in reply to "Getting tired of iSheep"
kristoph
Member since:
2006-01-01

No offense here dude, but the *reality* is that Apple just reported revenue growth of 26% the last quarter, up to $9 billion. Samsung reported $6 billion. It looks like a reasonably comparison except for the fact that Samsung has 6 times the employees of Apple and has a margin below 5%.

Also ...

Apple is the largest tech company by revenue.
Apple is the largest company by market cap.
Apple has the highest margin of any tech company.
Apple has the highest customer service rating of any tech company.

None of this is really subjective so you can't blame it on 'sheep'.

That's not to say Android, Google and Samsung are not doing well. They are. Android is by far the most popular smart phone OS and that's not going to change anytime soon.

So there is lots to be happy about for both Android and iOS fans. Can't we all just get along?

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RE[2]: Getting tired of iSheep
by _txf_ on Sat 28th Jul 2012 19:30 in reply to "RE: Getting tired of iSheep"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

So there is lots to be happy about for both Android and iOS fans. Can't we all just get along?


Doubtful.

We can't get along BECAUSE Apple is doing fine right now despite the existence of Android. It really doesn't need to assert BS patents against others in order to compete...

And if it does then it surely doesn't deserve to compete.

Edited 2012-07-28 19:30 UTC

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RE[2]: Getting tired of iSheep
by wargum on Sat 28th Jul 2012 19:55 in reply to "RE: Getting tired of iSheep"
wargum Member since:
2006-12-15

Apple obviously doesn't want coexistence with Android. Remember Steve Jobs' quote about how he want to go "thermonuclear" on Android and "right this wrong"? The multitude of law suits around the world are the direct result of this view of a "stolen" product.

I am all for a competitive marketplace with different platforms to choose from. Most people are, I guess.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I don't understand why the financials of the company are relevant in terms of smartphone platform. As a developer I just care that the platform itself will survive, and that there are a number of potential users of my app.

Hp has always done well, but I'm not porting my app to webos, nor to windows phone 7.

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

No offense here dude, but the *reality* is that Apple just reported revenue growth of 26% the last quarter, up to $9 billion. Samsung reported $6 billion. It looks like a reasonably comparison except for the fact that Samsung has 6 times the employees of Apple and has a margin below 5%.


Samsung has subsidiaries involved in high fashion clothing, banking, hotels, insurance, steelmaking, automobiles, agriculture, chemicals and biotechnology. It is one of the most diversified large corporations in the world.

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Dr.Mabuse Member since:
2009-05-19


Also ...

Apple is the largest tech company by revenue.
Apple is the largest company by market cap.
Apple has the highest margin of any tech company.
Apple has the highest customer service rating of any tech company.

None of this is really subjective so you can't blame it on 'sheep'.


But this was his point. Apple are gouging the customer.

Other than the last point, none of these things are particularly positive in my mind and at least one makes me very uncomfortable (margins.)

It's like boasting to friends that you just bought a house where the builder made four times the profit off you ... Like it's a good thing? Really?

Is the shine starting to wear off Apple? I've heard some recent comments from friends buying phones where they went into a store wanting to buy an iPhone, only to walk out with an Android.

"Full throttle back into the niche."

Indeed.

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

But this was his point. Apple are gouging the customer.

Other than the last point, none of these things are particularly positive in my mind and at least one makes me very uncomfortable (margins.)

It's like boasting to friends that you just bought a house where the builder made four times the profit off you ... Like it's a good thing? Really?

If you believe that Apple is gouging its customers then you must also believe that companies like Intel, Amazon.com, Nvidia, and so on are too because all these companies have similar profit margins. In some cases even higher. The profit margin Apple enjoys isn't that much higher than the common numbers.

If you want to talk about companies that are ripping people off, have a conversation about the members of Opec or someone else worthy of that discussion. Apple is making money off you, but they aren't bending you over and giving it to you raw.

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