Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2012 10:10 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In case you were still doubting whether or not Apple's lawsuits against Samsung were a case of 'if you can't compete, litigate', Samsung's financial results should seal the deal. The company shipped round and about 50 million smartphones, twice as many smartphones as Apple shipped. So, not only is Android doing better on smartphones than iOS, there's now also a single manufacturer outselling Apple. Oh, the next avenue for de-emphasizing this achievement has already reared its head: Samsung has a wider portfolio, and as such, the comparison isn't fair. Nonsense, of course - Volkswagen sells lots more models than, say, Mazda, but that doesn't mean you can't compare them. Maybe, just maybe, having a wide portfolio of devices to meet the various different needs of the market is simply a very good strategy. It'll be interesting to see just how much Apple can take back with the next iPhone, especially since the full potential of the Galaxy SIII hasn't been realised yet and will be accounted for in Samsung's next quarter as well. Fun, such a fight between titans. Just too bad one of the two titans plays dirty by opting for the courtroom.
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RE[3]: Apple isn't Mazda.
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2012 23:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Apple isn't Mazda. "
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

So, when comparing total revenue the differing portfolios magically no longer matter, but when comparing phones sold, it does matter?

Arbitrariness ftw. Apple wins on profits, Samsung on number of devices sold, and arguing you can compare the companies on one metric but not the other is ridiculous, and you know it. Now that 70% (or so) of Apple's revenue comes from iOS, it's clear Samsung is a massive threat. Hence the lawsuits.

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RE[4]: Apple isn't Mazda.
by sergio on Sun 29th Jul 2012 00:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Apple isn't Mazda. "
sergio Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeap, because you're comparing dollars with dollars and not iPhones with tomatoes.

Nokia sells more units than Apple too (83 millons vs. 26 millons)... is Nokia doing it better than Apple? C'mon...

Revenue and profits are better indicators to measure the performance of a company than units sold. Business 101.

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RE[5]: Apple isn't Mazda.
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 29th Jul 2012 00:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Apple isn't Mazda. "
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I didn't say Samsung is doing better than Apple. You made that up all by yourself. I said Samsung sells more smartphones than Apple.

Reading comprehension 101. You're tripping over your own fanboy threads you've spun.

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RE[5]: Apple isn't Mazda.
by cdude on Sun 29th Jul 2012 05:50 in reply to "RE[4]: Apple isn't Mazda. "
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

You compare apples with oranges. Google, that is the one making Android vs Apple, the one making iOs, and there revenues on devices sold is irrelevant.
Google never had the goal to make with Android.money by sold devices. Heck, they are not even the ones who sell most Android devices! There business plan with Android is very different then those Apple has with iphone. You cannot compare on pure revenue AND especially not with Samsung who, and I repeat myself, have 1. another business-model then google and Apple and 2. are not even the once who do Android.

Comparing devices sold and hence market share of the ecosystem is the most logical if not only way to compare both. Also cause Google, the Android maker, does not give numbers out about its real source of income for Android. Let alone that Android secures there number #1 income-source and is, in my eyes, more competing with Windows+Bing+Azure rather then with Apple.

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RE[4]: Apple isn't Mazda.
by henderson101 on Sun 29th Jul 2012 18:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Apple isn't Mazda. "
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I have 5 bananas, you have 20. You sell all of your bananas for a total of €20. I sell mine for €5 each. One of us shifts a lot of bananas. One of us makes the most profit. You do the Maths.

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RE[5]: Apple isn't Mazda.
by lemur2 on Mon 30th Jul 2012 04:37 in reply to "RE[4]: Apple isn't Mazda. "
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I have 5 bananas, you have 20. You sell all of your bananas for a total of €20. I sell mine for €5 each. One of us shifts a lot of bananas. One of us makes the most profit. You do the Maths.


The people who eat bannanas are far better off buying their bananna from one seller and not the other. 20 people are getting a reasonable deal, and 5 are getting utterly ripped off. You do the math.

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