Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2012 10:10 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In case you were still doubting whether or not Apple's lawsuits against Samsung were a case of 'if you can't compete, litigate', Samsung's financial results should seal the deal. The company shipped round and about 50 million smartphones, twice as many smartphones as Apple shipped. So, not only is Android doing better on smartphones than iOS, there's now also a single manufacturer outselling Apple. Oh, the next avenue for de-emphasizing this achievement has already reared its head: Samsung has a wider portfolio, and as such, the comparison isn't fair. Nonsense, of course - Volkswagen sells lots more models than, say, Mazda, but that doesn't mean you can't compare them. Maybe, just maybe, having a wide portfolio of devices to meet the various different needs of the market is simply a very good strategy. It'll be interesting to see just how much Apple can take back with the next iPhone, especially since the full potential of the Galaxy SIII hasn't been realised yet and will be accounted for in Samsung's next quarter as well. Fun, such a fight between titans. Just too bad one of the two titans plays dirty by opting for the courtroom.
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RE[2]: Lawsuits
by Tony Swash on Sun 29th Jul 2012 10:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Lawsuits"
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Defensive vs. offensive. There's a difference.

You mean Apple is trying to defend itself against IP theft?

By the way a discussion of the full implications of Samsung's total dominance of the Android market would interesting. Presumably when Google came up with their Android strategy they thought they would be the dog wagging the OEM's tail. Now it appears they are the tail being wagged because only Samsung has made a successful business out of Android which gives them potentially very big leverage over Google and Android.

Projecting a couple of years down the road when most of the non-profitable OEMs have exited the market or when Samsung's device sales simply dwarf all other Android OEM you can see an interesting situation looming.

Given that Samsung seems to be able to make a very large and profitable business using old versions of the Android OS what's to stop them saying at some point that the latest version of the Android OS is good enough and it's time to dump Google for say Baidu in China, or Bing in the US. Or ask Google to pay them high fees to carry it's services such as search.

Irrespective of how successful Samsung is I think that Google never planned for a scenario where only one OEM ran the Android phone market and they must be at least somewhat concerned about their apparent vulnerability.

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RE[3]: Lawsuits
by lemur2 on Sun 29th Jul 2012 10:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Lawsuits"
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"Defensive vs. offensive. There's a difference.

You mean Apple is trying to defend itself against IP theft?

No. Android is not a copy of iOS, there is not one line of code in common.

Apple is trying to destroy Android, and also eliminate all serious competition.

It is attempting to do so by arguing that Motorola or Samsung should get only $0.0049 (half a cent) per device for essential, expensive R&D hardware patents that make up the actual working core of a mobile phone (and then not paying out even that much), yet Apple should get from Motorola and Samsung $24 per device for a rectangular-box-with-rounded-corners cosmetic "design" which it stole from Sony anyway.

So who exactly is the IP thief? I'll give you a hint ... it isn't Motorola or Samsung.

Edited 2012-07-29 10:20 UTC

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RE[4]: Lawsuits
by michaelz on Sun 29th Jul 2012 11:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Lawsuits"
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Too bad android copies the interface. Here you can see some images;

You can see that, pre-iPhone, the Android was more MacOS like (dock, big background screen). After the iPhone, it became iPhone like.

I clearly agree with apple on some points;
1. Samsung makes the devices far too iPhone/iPod/iPad like, too be just a "natural" evolvement. The tables pre-iPad where big clunky unusable devices and Samsung has never shown any real own creative minds to come up with the current productline (as far as I can tell, and this is a limited mindset from all the products I have seen from Samsung).
2. Android clearly appears to have grown towards iOS, after the first iPhone got released. Samsung added functionality to make it even more iOS-like.

That code hasn't been copied, doesn't make the product a copy. This way you would justify all the copies that exist. Because you type over a book, that action doesn't make the text yours. It's still from the original author.

Don't get me wrong, I love a world where we have choice. Be free too choose the OS / Phone of your liking and be a fan of it if you really think it's the best thing in the world, please, do that. That's what makes us human. But copying and stealing ideas is something that's in human nature as well, but that's something we decided long ago to try to ban.

I think it would be best if Samsung would create an original device, not too iPhone/iPad like, and add Android to it in a way that differentiates it from iOS. That would be good for Samsung, for Apple and the consumer (more choice)

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