Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2012 10:10 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In case you were still doubting whether or not Apple's lawsuits against Samsung were a case of 'if you can't compete, litigate', Samsung's financial results should seal the deal. The company shipped round and about 50 million smartphones, twice as many smartphones as Apple shipped. So, not only is Android doing better on smartphones than iOS, there's now also a single manufacturer outselling Apple. Oh, the next avenue for de-emphasizing this achievement has already reared its head: Samsung has a wider portfolio, and as such, the comparison isn't fair. Nonsense, of course - Volkswagen sells lots more models than, say, Mazda, but that doesn't mean you can't compare them. Maybe, just maybe, having a wide portfolio of devices to meet the various different needs of the market is simply a very good strategy. It'll be interesting to see just how much Apple can take back with the next iPhone, especially since the full potential of the Galaxy SIII hasn't been realised yet and will be accounted for in Samsung's next quarter as well. Fun, such a fight between titans. Just too bad one of the two titans plays dirty by opting for the courtroom.
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ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

I suppose on a "openness" scale of 1 to 10, with Android being 10 and Apple 1, I would give Microsoft a 3, given their tight constraints on hardware and software and the special privileges given to Nokia.

If I'm wrong, please point me to the innovative WP 7.x phones that have resulted.

WP8 and WinRT may have different rules, of course, but they aren't shipping yet.

But I do strongly disagree that "the problems they're having have little to do with the open or closed nature of the ecosystem". I believe WP has failed to take off because all WP phones are basically the same. The iPhone also lacks variety, of course, but at least it provides a highly predictable experience, insanely comprehensive app store, and a certain brand cachet.

But this is just my opinion. Who really knows why customers buy what they buy? Only the Madison Avenue research firms, I suppose, and they aren't giving away their research. *shrugs*

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I suppose on a "openness" scale of 1 to 10, with Android being 10 and Apple 1, I would give Microsoft a 3, given their tight constraints on hardware and software and the special privileges given to Nokia.


I doubt they're going to be as controlling as Apple given that if your application does something different or dares to add functionality that challenges some built in functionality you soon find your application rejected for some inane reason.

If I'm wrong, please point me to the innovative WP 7.x phones that have resulted.


You are wrong because I never said Windows Phone 7 devices were innovative - the focus of my post was on Windows Phone 8. Re-read what I wrote and this time actually read it and think about it instead of quickly scanning it and hoping that a few key words will pop out at your when you do so.

WP8 and WinRT may have different rules, of course, but they aren't shipping yet.


So why did you even reply to my post when the crux of the post was centred around Windows Phone 8?

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Wow, sensitive much?

I read your entire post. The sentence that set you off was in response to "the problems they're having have little to do with the open or closed nature of the ecosystem".

I'm afraid it does, IMHO, because the closed nature of the ecosystem prevents innovation, and whether you commented on innovation or not doesn't change that fact.

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Carewolf Member since:
2005-09-08

I suppose on a "openness" scale of 1 to 10, with Android being 10 and Apple 1


What? Would that make the Nokia N9, 20 on that scale? Please Android while pretty open on some fronts, is not a 10. Give it 8, and Apple does allow 3rd party apps, while they control which, you could imagine a phone like the first iPhone where native apps are not allowed at all.

So on a more absolete openness scale:
First iPhone: 1
Current iPhones: 2
Androids: 6-8
Nokia N9: 10
WP7: 3
Win8 RT: (guess) 5
Win8 non-RT: 9

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Haha! I was establishing a scale from 1 to 10 using iPhone and Android as relative anchors, kind of like setting Celsius with 0 arbitrarily at water's freezing point and 100 it's boiling point.

For an absolute. (Kelvin?) scale of openness, your's wouldn't be a bad starting point.

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