Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jul 2012 12:41 UTC
Gnome Honest question. Do you think the GNOME project is as healthy today as it was, say, 4 years ago? Benjamin Otte explains that no, it isn't. GNOME lacks developers, goals, mindshare and users. The situation as he describes it, is a lot more dire than I personally thought.
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What GNOME 3 needs...
by Jason Bourne on Sun 29th Jul 2012 15:45 UTC
Jason Bourne
Member since:
2007-06-02

From a design point of view, the whole GNOME Shell concept is flawed.

If one created an extension that would provide a 3 top level menu with a bottom taskbar just like GNOME 2 was, under GNOME Shell, it would help to keep the people interested. There are some extensions that can mimick menus and so on, but they\'re not the same as GNOME 2. I am talking about a full clone of the GNOME 2 top level menus: Applications - Places - System. Of course we would also want to have all the window title buttons back and our window list at the bottom.

I mean, all of those things can be implemented as default on the back of GNOME 3 technologies. Insisting that current GNOME 3 design will succeed over time is just simply silly. We don\'t need a fallback hack mode - all we need is a well written extension. GNOME 3 though, looks as if someone really wanted to ruin the whole project.

I just can be hovering the mouse 1000 times a day onto a screen corner. [redacted]

Linux is losing more market share and I\'m considering moving back to Windows 7. Because I have more important work to do than playing the tablet on my desktop.

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RE: What GNOME 3 needs...
by chris_dk on Mon 30th Jul 2012 08:12 in reply to "What GNOME 3 needs..."
chris_dk Member since:
2005-07-12

If one created an extension that would provide a 3 top level menu with a bottom taskbar just like GNOME 2 was, under GNOME Shell, it would help to keep the people interested. There are some extensions that can mimick menus and so on, but they're not the same as GNOME 2. I am talking about a full clone of the GNOME 2 top level menus: Applications - Places - System. Of course we would also want to have all the window title buttons back and our window list at the bottom.


That is what Cinnamon in Linux Mint is all about.

Only problem with that is you need to rewrite the Gnome Shell extensions...ugh!

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RE[2]: What GNOME 3 needs...
by Jason Bourne on Mon 30th Jul 2012 14:51 in reply to "RE: What GNOME 3 needs..."
Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

I think it's wiser to fork and mod XFCE because this route should be shorter. XFCE is faster than GNOME 2 and much faster than GNOME 3. I don't think it's that difficult to get XFCE on par with GNOME 2 as in look & feel and also replacing some default applications.

Cinnamon is just like a 10 hour emergency surgery that will lead the patient to be unable to have full recovery. Projects like MATE certainly need Linus Torvalds himself to 'take on' the lead so that it could mean something to everyone in Linux ecosystem.

Unity and GNOME Shell were a major punch on the face and we all went to the ground. We're getting up, trying to recover, and a bit dizzy. The purpose of so many mistakes surrounding the DE communities are to reevaluate our thinking.

For the time being, it will be CentOS and favourite applications compiled on /opt

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