Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Jul 2012 19:38 UTC, submitted by tupp
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It might be a cliche, but sometimes, a picture says more than a thousand words. Over the years, I've often talked about how the technology world is iterative, about how products are virtually always built upon that which came before, about how almost always, multiple people independently arrive at the same products since they work within the same constraints of the current state of technology. This elementary aspect of the technology world, which some would rather forget, has been illustrated very, very well in one of Samsung's legal filings against Apple.
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Crucifixion
by jigzat on Tue 31st Jul 2012 16:23 UTC
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2008-10-30

I know I am going to get crucified for this but I don't think Apple is fighting touchscreen phones but more it's business model of course there is prior art in all this but how far in the past can we go? I mean Apple had the MessagePad A.K.A Newton long before, even Start Trek had the idea of touch devices. But if you look at the first Samsung's they copycat even the charging cable. Maybe they felt that they had the right to do so because they had been working with touchscreen phones.

Some people say that without Apple someone had come with the same idea and maybe they are right but the same idea does't mean is the same product and the same timeline and the same success.

Most companies like to milk up technology until is drained so I'm sure that without Apple we would have had the same technology. I think we would still be using the same kind of phones we had before 2006. Apple did open up the market and push the technology.

The only reason these companies were able to get their products out is because of Android and the fact that is virtually cost-free. It took almost 10 years for Apple an OS experienced company to mature an OS and come up with an great operating system ready touch-based mobile phones. Look how much has cost to Microsoft do the same thing with Windows Phone and we are talking about the cash cow Microsoft. And the most ironic thing is that the copycat master manage to come up with something truly unique.

Edited 2012-07-31 16:26 UTC

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RE: Crucifixion
by TechGeek on Tue 31st Jul 2012 17:51 in reply to "Crucifixion"
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The power cable that Samsung "copied" happens to be a standard non proprietary plug. Its meant to be copied. As for design, its very simple. Phones led to the design of a touch screen front on a device. Lots of examples of this. The iPad is just a giant iphone. If Samsung was truly copying Apple, Samsung devices wouldn't lack the polish in certain places. Because its not so much the quality of the software (granted bad code leads to bugs) but the design which shows off the polish of the OS.

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RE[2]: Crucifixion
by jigzat on Tue 31st Jul 2012 19:39 in reply to "RE: Crucifixion"
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Sources please. No seriously, just wan't to read that.

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RE[2]: Crucifixion
by Sabon on Tue 31st Jul 2012 22:41 in reply to "RE: Crucifixion"
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The iPad is just a giant iphone.


That's got to be one of the most clueless comments I've ever seen.

An iPhone or iPod Touch is like looking through a key hole in a door. An iPad is like opening up the door and walking inside. VERY different. The bigger screens gives the app maker room to do things in very different ways which makes it a very different experience.

Which my iPhone I pretty much only consume information.
With my iPad I create things every day. I'm able to do about 90% of what I used to do on a laptop. I definitely wouldn't be able to say that about my iPhone.

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RE: Crucifixion
by smashIt on Tue 31st Jul 2012 20:38 in reply to "Crucifixion"
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I mean Apple had the MessagePad A.K.A Newton long before, even Start Trek had the idea of touch devices


and palm had it's first pda (the zoomer) on the streets one year prior to the newton

and those palm-bastards iirc came from grid, a company you definitely should take a closer look at ;)

Apple an OS experienced company


you are kidding, aren't you?

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RE[2]: Crucifixion
by jigzat on Wed 1st Aug 2012 02:28 in reply to "RE: Crucifixion"
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2008-10-30

Well despite the argument that Apple copy Xerox (Although legally) they had the first comercial graphic OS and they had it for many many years (what like 20) and if you compare it with Samsung I haven't heard they have an in house OS, plus Mac OS X was a really advanced OS back then although again they bought from NeXT (you all know the story) and please lets not get into the GNU is better, that is a really subjective issue. In any case Apple has been developing OS from more than 20 years I think I think they might have a little experience developing OS's. If they don't bring any more advancements is because money wise reasons

Interesting fact about the Palm Zoomer.

Edited 2012-08-01 02:36 UTC

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