Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Jul 2012 19:38 UTC, submitted by tupp
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It might be a cliche, but sometimes, a picture says more than a thousand words. Over the years, I've often talked about how the technology world is iterative, about how products are virtually always built upon that which came before, about how almost always, multiple people independently arrive at the same products since they work within the same constraints of the current state of technology. This elementary aspect of the technology world, which some would rather forget, has been illustrated very, very well in one of Samsung's legal filings against Apple.
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RE: Crucifixion
by smashIt on Tue 31st Jul 2012 20:38 UTC in reply to "Crucifixion"
smashIt
Member since:
2005-07-06

I mean Apple had the MessagePad A.K.A Newton long before, even Start Trek had the idea of touch devices


and palm had it's first pda (the zoomer) on the streets one year prior to the newton

and those palm-bastards iirc came from grid, a company you definitely should take a closer look at ;)

Apple an OS experienced company


you are kidding, aren't you?

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RE[2]: Crucifixion
by jigzat on Wed 1st Aug 2012 02:28 in reply to "RE: Crucifixion"
jigzat Member since:
2008-10-30

Well despite the argument that Apple copy Xerox (Although legally) they had the first comercial graphic OS and they had it for many many years (what like 20) and if you compare it with Samsung I haven't heard they have an in house OS, plus Mac OS X was a really advanced OS back then although again they bought from NeXT (you all know the story) and please lets not get into the GNU is better, that is a really subjective issue. In any case Apple has been developing OS from more than 20 years I think I think they might have a little experience developing OS's. If they don't bring any more advancements is because money wise reasons

Interesting fact about the Palm Zoomer.

Edited 2012-08-01 02:36 UTC

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RE[3]: Crucifixion
by Yehppael on Wed 1st Aug 2012 08:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Crucifixion"
Yehppael Member since:
2012-08-01

What about the linux kernel? Android with a some specific changes uses it, and it's 21 years old.

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RE[3]: Crucifixion
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 1st Aug 2012 08:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Crucifixion"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

they had the first comercial graphic OS


They did not. That honour belongs to the Xerox Star, launched in 1981. See what I mean with people not having a clue about history and just assuming Apple did everything?

and they had it for many many years (what like 20)


I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Are you saying nobody had a graphical operating system for 20 years after the release of the first Mac? What does this even mean?

and if you compare it with Samsung I haven't heard they have an in house OS


They have loads. Every one of their feature phones runs on an operating system, and, of course, they have Bada.

In any case Apple has been developing OS from more than 20 years I think I think they might have a little experience developing OS's.


When you really break it down, Apple only developed the original Mac OS, and then failed utterly and completely at keeping it up to date. All their other projects in this space failed miserably - so they had to buy their way out.

Your post is a perfect illustration of what I meant in the article: people have no clue about history, and just parrot whatever they read in Apple forums without actually bothering to look up the facts.

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RE[3]: Crucifixion
by Soulbender on Wed 1st Aug 2012 09:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Crucifixion"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

they had the first comercial graphic OS


No, as Thom said that was the Xerox Star.

and they had it for many many years (what like 20)


Uh, no. Seriously, wtf? Digital's GEM came out in 1985, and so did Windows 1.0. Amiga and Atari ST in 1987. X Windows came out in 1984.

if you compare it with Samsung I haven't heard they have an in house OS


Bada. Not that it matters if they have decades of experience or not. It's the end product that counts.

plus Mac OS X was a really advanced OS back then


Yeah, it was SOOO advanced. Windows had nothing on it...
"Advanced" is more than a fancy GUI.

that is a really subjective issue


Ah, just like how you claim OSX was "really advanced".

In any case Apple has been developing OS from more than 20 years I think I think they might have a little experience developing OS's


Sure, too bad they rested on their laurels for some 20 years and almost went under. I guess bad experience is also experience.

If they don't bring any more advancements is because money wise reasons


Ah, so they will stop innovating again and let the competition kill them? Because that's money wise.

Edited 2012-08-01 09:29 UTC

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