Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Jul 2012 19:38 UTC, submitted by tupp
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It might be a cliche, but sometimes, a picture says more than a thousand words. Over the years, I've often talked about how the technology world is iterative, about how products are virtually always built upon that which came before, about how almost always, multiple people independently arrive at the same products since they work within the same constraints of the current state of technology. This elementary aspect of the technology world, which some would rather forget, has been illustrated very, very well in one of Samsung's legal filings against Apple.
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RE[2]: Crucifixion
by Sabon on Tue 31st Jul 2012 22:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Crucifixion"
Sabon
Member since:
2005-07-06

The iPad is just a giant iphone.


That's got to be one of the most clueless comments I've ever seen.

An iPhone or iPod Touch is like looking through a key hole in a door. An iPad is like opening up the door and walking inside. VERY different. The bigger screens gives the app maker room to do things in very different ways which makes it a very different experience.

Which my iPhone I pretty much only consume information.
With my iPad I create things every day. I'm able to do about 90% of what I used to do on a laptop. I definitely wouldn't be able to say that about my iPhone.

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RE[3]: Crucifixion
by Priest on Wed 1st Aug 2012 06:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Crucifixion"
Priest Member since:
2006-05-12

he said:

>The iPad is just a giant iphone.

You said:

>"That's got to be one of the most clueless comments I've ever seen.....VERY different. The bigger screens gives the app maker room to do things in very different ways"

Since we are talking about hardware I think "giant iPhone" and "bigger screen" aren't terribly far apart. Besides, here is a tablet concept from 1994: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtPQDQNcI

The idea goes back to the 60's.

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RE[3]: Crucifixion
by wowzer on Wed 1st Aug 2012 16:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Crucifixion"
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2012-08-01


Which my iPhone I pretty much only consume information.
With my iPad I create things every day. I'm able to do about 90% of what I used to do on a laptop. I definitely wouldn't be able to say that about my iPhone.


HAHAHA, please, elaborate on this. First, where do you get this 90% figure? And then what kinds of things do you "create" on an iPad/tablet? As a tablet owner, I can say my tablet experience is that of consumption, exactly the way my smartphone is, save for making phone calls. A tablet (iPad in your case being the Apple fanboy you seem to be based on this thread) is a form factor pretty much catered towards consumption. So, I am, and I'm sure others are too, curious as to what you do differently with this kind of device.

I agree with the original post you quoted, the iPad is really just a big iPhone, but with slightly less functionality since it doesn't natively make phone calls.

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RE[4]: what I create on my iPad.
by Sabon on Wed 1st Aug 2012 22:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Crucifixion"
Sabon Member since:
2005-07-06

I've got a 1st and 3rd gen Apple iPad with an Apple bluetooth keyboard.
What do/can I create on them?

Spreadsheets. No I don't create thousands of lines in spreadsheets. I used to but I don't work in a financial company anymore. Numbers is more than capable for this. And I can send my spreadsheets to people with Excel.
Note that people that makes big money don't need big spreadsheets. Only the little worker bees do. No, I'm not rich or poor. I'm in between.

Pages. This is a place where I create large documents of over 200 pages. 200 pages is large for me and not a limitation of my iPad.

Websites. It is very easy to remote into a server and edit HTML and XML using an iPad.

Music with garage band. The limitations are my talent and not the program. Nine Inch Nails often use Garage Band on iPads to sketch out songs and even released an album with music only created and edited with Garage Band. Are they big enough to count?

Do you know that there are been quite a few magazine covers with artwork by renowned artists created on iPhones and iPads? No. Look up the New Yorker for one. I believe there is at least one Time magazine cover.

You can use the iPad and bluetooth keyboard to remote into a remote computer at home or at work and write and compile programs? I won't put words in your mouth that this doesn't count. Tell that to the programmers I know that do this and love the fact that the iPad and bluetooth keyboard weighs less than the Windows laptops they use to use.

People use iPads to write their blogs. Keeps in mind that some of these people make a LOT of money. Not because of what they write it on but because of the content. Oh, the stuff people say can't be created on an iPad? Yes, content. Ok, maybe I did put works in your mouth that time.

Just because you can't create things on an iPad doesn't mean VERY successful people can't because they can and DO.

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RE[3]: Crucifixion
by OMRebel on Wed 1st Aug 2012 21:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Crucifixion"
OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

"The iPad is just a giant iphone.


That's got to be one of the most clueless comments I've ever seen.

An iPhone or iPod Touch is like looking through a key hole in a door. An iPad is like opening up the door and walking inside. VERY different. The bigger screens gives the app maker room to do things in very different ways which makes it a very different experience.

Which my iPhone I pretty much only consume information.
With my iPad I create things every day. I'm able to do about 90% of what I used to do on a laptop. I definitely wouldn't be able to say that about my iPhone.
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You must do very, very little with computers if you can do 90% of the work you do using a tablet. Seriously - I would refrain from making comments like that if you want people to take you seriously.

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