Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Jul 2012 19:38 UTC, submitted by tupp
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It might be a cliche, but sometimes, a picture says more than a thousand words. Over the years, I've often talked about how the technology world is iterative, about how products are virtually always built upon that which came before, about how almost always, multiple people independently arrive at the same products since they work within the same constraints of the current state of technology. This elementary aspect of the technology world, which some would rather forget, has been illustrated very, very well in one of Samsung's legal filings against Apple.
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Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

I wouldn't wanna call Steve a hack, I guess the only thing he is good at is having taste/vision and saying: no

With vision I mean, like the people at Xerox didn't know what they really had when they let Apple see and use it.

That also is a talent, maybe his only talent.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Steve had a couple of talents: vision, eye for details, taste, forcing/persuading people do to his bidding and indeed saying no. Interestingly the co-founder of the world's most successful tech company wasn't very technical.

Xerox didn't know what they had, Parc Xerox did. Some at Xerox Parc were happy that Apple wanted to do something with their technology, others weren't.

It's funny how these seemingly small lucky events. I'd really love to know what would have happened in an alternate universe.

What if Steve hadn't visited Parc Xerox or didn't return to save Apple?
What if IBM didn't bother with the PC or Microsoft didn't buy QDOS?
What if Commodore hadn't gone bust?
What is OS/2 did manage to succeed?
What if Microsoft gave up after Windows 1.0?
What is Google had stuck to search?
What if Apple didn't think a mobile phone would sell?
What if BSD didn't have legal problems and Linus never started Linux?

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

What if Apple didn't think a mobile phone would sell?


They wanted to create devices, similair to that, since the time of the Newton.

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Comment by zima
by zima on Mon 6th Aug 2012 23:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Sony eh. Very interesting read."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Steve had a couple of talents: vision, eye for details, taste

I'm not entirely convinced we can sincerely say that about somebody who insisted, for so long, on ejecting removable media by... moving them to the trash.

forcing/persuading people do to his bidding and indeed saying no

Hm, that didn't really work out with the last big example of "saying no" to apps on the iPhone. Or, harmful in different way - he strengthened in Apple a culture which will likely lead to a repeat of the history with PC, while he could make iOS "the PC".

Interestingly the co-founder of the world's most successful tech company wasn't very technical.

Though how much is it still a tech company?... (vs. media / physical chain / software distribution, design, marketing)

It's funny how these seemingly small lucky events. I'd really love to know what would have happened in an alternate universe.
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What is OS/2 did manage to succeed?
What if Microsoft gave up after Windows 1.0?

Oh there is an easy answer to this one - the underlying goal of OS/2 was to return the control over PC market to IBM (and that's why it didn't succeed, other OEMs wouldn't play along / why they went the Windows way) - you just have to look at how IBM did things, with its more traditional markets, to know what it would be like.

PS. And BTW those ways, and the PC - pretty much the same thing you mentioned in http://www.osnews.com/thread?529156 applied to the PC ...so was it not a commercial computer?
(or to Nextcubes; hell, it largely applies to Macs machines, for most of the planet - they hardly "brought the GUI to the homes" ( http://www.osnews.com/thread?529153), only to some minuscule proportion of them; you should know, Amiga and all :p - and BTW, when Apple was suing MS for "ripping the GUI off" ...Xerox sued Apple on the same basis)

Edited 2012-08-07 00:19 UTC

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