Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Aug 2012 16:11 UTC
Windows Microsoft has just announced that Windows 8 has gone gold - or, in Redmond parlance, RTM. "Today, I am excited to announce that Windows 8 has been released to manufacturing (RTM)! This means we've completed the product development and testing of the product and have started handing off the final code to our OEM partners. They can now begin preparing new Windows 8 PCs and devices they'll introduce starting with General Availability." Anybody got a spare MSDN account?
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RE[4]: Ha!
by WereCatf on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 13:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Ha!"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

None of those things mentioned really matter to Average Joe, except perhaps the Live-integration. I just don't really know if even that matters much in the end as none of the Averages I know understand anything about this Microsoft Live-thing, they just use "messenger" or "chat" or "mail." Microsoft kind of haven't integrated it's Live-based services well with eachothers nor are they taking enough advantage of that.

As I have mentioned before the most beneficial feature of Windows 8 for Average Joes and Janes is the curated app store; once the people become aware of that I can image them using the app store as their primary method of finding new applications and games, possibly resulting in massive reduction in malware and viruses. The less malware and viruses there are in the wild the better for everyone. The second thing that is very beneficial for Average Joes and Janes is the inclusion of Microsoft Security Essentials as a core part of Windows 8; since MSE does not expire, it is not some trial thing nor does it try to push subscriptions or extra functionality to users it's a very workable "out-of-your-face" antivirus - solution.

As for the reaction of these Averages: as I've said, I believe most complaints will be about how the people don't understand why the system jumps between regular desktop and Metro so often when they try to use their applications, not about Metro itself. Eventually, though, people will end up replacing most of their legacy applications with Metro-based stuff from the Windows Store and thus people will start to complain less. In any event the complaints won't be enough to steer the general populace away from Windows, it'll still be mostly only geeks, nerds and self-righteous "professionals" who will be doing that in some sort of a crusade and the general populace will continue rolling their eyes.

Windows 8 RT is where I see potential for a much bigger of a mess with general populace: Average Janes and Joes are exceedingly good at ignoring everything they're being told, they'll just see the word "Windows" and automatically believe that everything they throw at the tablet will work. No matter how much you tell them otherwise there's bound to be people who refuse to understand, and thus it would likely have been smart for Microsoft to name Windows 8 RT something more distinctive.

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RE[5]: Ha!
by ze_jerkface on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 14:05 in reply to "RE[4]: Ha!"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Here's why you are wrong:

People are not as average as you think. I'm always surprised by how many people have that one Win32 application for work or home.

Also, the following will not go to Metro anytime soon:
Office
iTunes
Photoshop
Warcraft

By anytime soon I mean years. Those are huge applications that cannot be ported overnight.

So it's unrealistic to expect most people to stay in Metro.

Then on top of it multitasking in Metro sucks and the fonts are crap because it is designed around ultra high dpi monitors.

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RE[6]: Ha!
by WereCatf on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 15:58 in reply to "RE[5]: Ha!"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Here's why you are wrong:


We'll see in a year or two.

Office


I'm fairly certain Microsoft will eventually release a Metro-version of Office, possibly one with an interface for both Metro and traditional desktop.

iTunes


True. But then again, Metro sports a music player already, so it's likely people will slowly move to that.

Photoshop


True again.

Warcraft


It's almost always played in fullscreen, plus it doesn't use Windows UI anyways, so that's wholly irrelevant.

So it's unrealistic to expect most people to stay in Metro.


It's also unrealistic to expect Average Joe to move to anything else.

Then on top of it multitasking in Metro sucks and the fonts are crap because it is designed around ultra high dpi monitors.


You just wish to complain about stuff you don't like.

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RE[6]: Ha!
by zima on Mon 6th Aug 2012 23:15 in reply to "RE[5]: Ha!"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Also, the following will not go to Metro anytime soon:
Warcraft

Warcraft won't go Metro, but it's not a dekstop app in the first place. iTunes hardly fits with Win desktop as is - might as well be "ported" without any adaptations (like Google did with the early test version of Chromium for Metro) and the extent to which it doesn't fit the environment will stay roughly the same.

You're really trying hard to convince yourselves that everybody will hate it...

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