Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 16:48 UTC, submitted by aargh
Games From Valve's Linux blog: "That the Linux version runs faster than the Windows version (270.6) seems a little counter-intuitive, given the greater amount of time we have spent on the Windows version. However, it does speak to the underlying efficiency of the kernel and OpenGL." If it wasn't obvious before, it should be now: Valve has started its marketing campaign for Linux. With the Windows platform in the process of closing itself off, Valve has to look to greener pastures. This is all to motive third parties to get their stuff ready for a possible Linux-powered 'Steambox' - not a console, but a set of generic PC specifications. Remember: the Xbox is the only machine tied to DirectX - OpenGL runs everywhere else, including Windows (the PS3 is an oddball, and has a sort-of Sony-specific FrankenOpenGL). OpenGL simply makes more sense for developers, and now Valve is working very closely with Nvidia, AMD, and Intel to optimise their Linux drivers. Do the math, people.
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RE: Not too fast
by robojerk on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 17:59 UTC in reply to "Not too fast"
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Linux, Android, iOS, PS3, Wii, and MacOS don't have Dirext3D/DirectX. All use OpenGL in some variant.
As more people buy non Windows products, the demand for OpenGL games rises.
If I were a game developer in today's world and wanted to maximize my potential customer pool I would definitely be looking at OpenGL, but I would still have a D3D port for Xbox and Windows.

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RE[2]: Not too fast
by Kroc on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 18:16 in reply to "RE: Not too fast"
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Middleware my good man; it’s not 1996 any more. Many AAA games are done using middleware platforms because they don’t want to invest the time/talent doing raw ports to the different platforms; the game has to be released across platforms at the same time. (crappy, laggy ports ho!)

Already the OpenGL/DX divide is for the most part non-existant other than for smaller titles and those developers who want/need custom/speed.

What Valve may help drive is a _focus_ on OpenGL as the primary source of effort instead of DirectX. Traditionally OpenGL games on Windows have always been second fiddle to DirectX and that trend may eventually swing the other direction due to the weight of iOS/Android/PS3 vs. PC/XBox/WinPhone; even with middleware (optimisation is everything for mobile systems)

Honestly, if it wasn’t for XBox, Microsoft would have already lost that grip.

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RE[2]: Not too fast
by fretinator on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 20:21 in reply to "RE: Not too fast"
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This makes sense for a new developer who say, "I want to make games." But for the vast majority of big games out there that would be ported to Linux, these are Windows games. Most of these games use DirectX.

I agree that as more and more developers come in and decide that they want to develop games for many platforms, then OpenGL makes sense. But for the current batch of big Windows games, these target Windows and XBox (with perhaps a crappy port to other consoles) and are written in DirectX.

Even for the current Windows dev who writes Windows and XBox games (using same development environment - XNA), if they decide to write (or rewrite) their current games for OpenGL, what do they do for XBox, which is most likely their premier platform.

I think as mobile games, tablet games, and the non-microsft platform in general grows, we may reach this tipping point. I don't think we are there yet. It is possible that Windows 8 will help, but a lot depends of how successful Microsoft is with Windows Surface on tablets, convertibles, and whether or not they can resurrect the Windows Phone market.

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RE[3]: Not too fast
by robojerk on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 20:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Not too fast"
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Most games use existing code. And big name developer houses happily sell their code to other developers. All of these games

idTech 1,2,3,4, & 5 (Quake series, and Rage)
Unreal Engine
Source (based of idTech)
IW Engine (Based off idTech3, used in all CoD games so far)
Unity Engine

I believe all those game engines have been ported to Linux except for IW Engine and Source, however it's rooted in idTech3 so a lot of the work is probably done for them already, but I am not sure of how much they changed it.

If you looked up what games use those engines, you'd probably find a BIG list of games that are potentially Linux compatible, or would require a small amount of work to get it supported.

It will be the small and indy game developers that will do a lot of work porting their games to Linux.

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