Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Aug 2012 22:36 UTC
Windows Now that Windows 8 has gone gold, Microsoft can move on to other things. With Windows 8, the most important of these is probably to make sure people know how to actually use it. Metro is filled to the brim with hard-to-discover features, but Microsoft has a plan. Will it be enough?
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RE[5]: Bleh... not enough.
by bassbeast on Sat 4th Aug 2012 04:07 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Bleh... not enough."
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2007-11-11

Thanks, as anyone who has read my posts anywhere can attest i just call 'em as i see 'em, too dang old to waste time trolling.

As for why the appstore won't work just take a look at Zune Market and GFWL, neither of which was worth crud. MSFT has become such a big bloated designed by committee mess that getting good UIs through all the PHBs is practically impossible, it all becomes "vertical integration" and "product synergy". Have you ever used Games for WINDOWS Live? Good luck finding a WINDOWS game on games for WINDOWS live as they are buried under 20 pages of Xbox games and DLC!

As for a central repo, you can have all the benefits without all the MSFT bad design right now friend, its called Ninite. com Sorry about the lack of links but frankly this site has always been hit or miss when it comes to me and links, but that gives you the programs everybody wants, your flash, LO, browsers, media codecs, etc and its as simple as "check boxes and hit run" and NO toolbars or other crud.

Finally i got rid of WinRot years ago friend, its not free (you can get the older one for free, but it doesn't work on Vista or 7) but frankly once you use it you will NOT go back, and that is TuneUp Utilities. Just install it and leave it alone, that's it. it cleans the reg, the temp junk, defrags based on what % your drive is fragmented and whether it is affecting performance, you really just let it go and it takes care of everything. I've tried all the free tools but nothing has come close to TuneUp for me, my Win XP install at the shop feels as snappy as it did when it was installed 6 years ago and my win 7 has been purring since Oct 09 and runs like the day i put it in, just perfect.

But again i can see why they are doing it, they aren't getting squat from mobile and X86 has become a commodity like washers and dryers, nobody replaces them until they croak anymore. Kinda hard to sell a new OS to people who have more CPU, RAM, and HDD than they know what to do with and are perfectly happy with what they have.

So MSFT will throw the pass, it'll either buy them some ground or fail miserably and frankly MSFT won't be any worse off afterwards. After all there are so many millions of X86 home and business programs that will never be ported that the users won't go to Mac or Linux anyway, so there really isn't any risk here to take a shot.

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RE[6]: Bleh... not enough.
by ze_jerkface on Sat 4th Aug 2012 19:46 in reply to "RE[5]: Bleh... not enough."
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2012-06-22

First of all Microsoft has billions in safe profits for years. Very few companies have that type of security. Sure the stock has been flat but when it comes to company health (IE paying the bills) they are fine.

They don't need a hail mary pass and even if they did it they could do it without angering their existing customer base. Why force Metro on enterprise? Why force Metro on Server?

This plan is so incredibly stupid and I expect business analysts to use it as a future case of what not to do. Microsoft has over 50 billion in the bank, they can buy marketshare/take huge risks without angering existing customers.

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RE[7]: Bleh... not enough.
by bassbeast on Sun 5th Aug 2012 23:34 in reply to "RE[6]: Bleh... not enough."
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2007-11-11

Because you don't see what the plan is, so I'll explain. The PHBs at MSFT have decided "Its not that the WinPhone design sucks, its that people aren't USED to our exciting new paradigm!" so they believe by jamming it onto everything you will have NO choice but to "get used to it" and thus will no longer ignore their WinPhones.

Is that smart? Nope its retarded, and as you said it makes even less sense on servers and enterprise, but if they allow exceptions for that the users will scream "Why can't we have THAT instead? We like THAT, we want THAT, give us THAT too!" and their goes their "get used to it" right out the window. After all with Windows using the same code base since XP frankly it wouldn't be a week before the "Make Win 8 Home behave like enterprise" hack would be all over rapidshare and the pirate bay so its either all or its nothing.

Personally I think Win 8 will bomb, the OEMs will demand and get Win 7 and Ballmer will retire, years later than he should have but as long as he's gone who cares. if they refuse to allow the OEMs to sell Win 7 I can easily see a "gang of nine" style revolt by the OEMs which are frankly hanging on by a thread as it is and aren't gonna give up what sales they have so Steve can pretend he works at Cupertino.

This is why you see Dell in talks with canonical, Valve coming out with a Linux client, they all don't know just how nuts Steve is and want to have an option if he refuses to see reality. Frankly with everyone living on FB and Valve covering the games if the OEMs all pitched in it really wouldn't take much to make a LTS Ubuntu into the new OEM choice. Simply pay Crossover to have built in support for the most popular windows apps, your Quickbooks and Photoshop and the like, and then if Ballmer refuses to give up his "LOL We're Apple now LOL!" fantasy they can just move on like they did with IBM and the MCA bus and leave MSFT playing in a corner by itself.

So do I think it'll happen? Nope, I think the board will revolt when the OEMs make it clear they'll leave Windows behind if they have to, Ballmer will retire after declaring win 8 a winnar, and things will go back to normal. That is unless win 8 is a hit but so far the backlash I've seen made Vista look like XP so i just don't see that happening.

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