Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th Aug 2012 00:54 UTC
Google This tweet from Tom Warren made me smile. So, it's 2012 and tablets are finally able to do what the Amiga did in 1985. Seems like a bit of a stretch to be excited about that, right? Sure, until I caught myself getting excited - only a bit, but still - by this piece of news. Update: removed me being an annoyed child.
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RE: Random idea
by Morgan on Sat 4th Aug 2012 04:54 UTC in reply to "Random idea"
Morgan
Member since:
2005-06-29

Reading comprehension is your friend, you should really try harder. He wasn't talking about multi-user on the Amiga, he was talking about multi-tasking, an entirely different thing. This was a lead-in to the discussion of multi-user environments on Android and iOS.

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RE[2]: Random idea
by CajunArson on Sat 4th Aug 2012 05:13 in reply to "RE: Random idea"
CajunArson Member since:
2009-07-16

My reading comprehension is just fine, but the writing quality of the posters on this site leaves much to be desired. Any rational person who reads the actual words posted in the article in this site would come to the conclusion that Thom is saying that ancient Amiga's had multi-user support that is just now being implemented for the first time ever in a mobile device... which is wrong but not the point.

Thom also posted a link to some random guy's twitter account showing two windows on a Windows 8 tablet... So what....

1. Some idiot "twittering" that he managed to use Windows doesn't mean that earlier mobile devices couldn't multitask since they have been doing it for decades (yes, much much longer than Android or iOS have been around, and yes iOS *does* support pre-emptive multitasking even if Apple prevents garden variety apps from taking full advantage of it),
and

2. The useless Twitter post (aren't they all useless?) that is not part of the text of this story is a logical non-sequitur to the remainder of the story... it looks like you could use some work on reading comprehension and logical reasoning instead of me.

P.S. --> To everyone still holding irrational nostalgia for Amiga, please direct me to all the multi-touch-enabled Amiga devices that had high-speed wireless data connectivity, OpenGL acclerated graphics, and support for 1080p H.264 playback. Amiga was a completely proprietary platform that only worked because Commodore exerted a level of control that makes Apple look like a hippy open-source startup.

The Amiga platform was doomed from the start because it assumed that no improvements to hardware or software were physically possible after 1985, while the "primitive" PC was designed from day 1 with the understanding that technology would progress forward.

Edited 2012-08-04 05:14 UTC

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RE[3]: Random idea
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 4th Aug 2012 05:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Random idea"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Uhm, you failed utterly and completely at reading comprehension. My god, this must be me some sort of new record.

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RE[3]: Random idea
by Morgan on Sat 4th Aug 2012 05:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Random idea"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

So I'm irrational because I happened to grok the meaning right away and you didn't? You blame your lack of comprehension on the writing skills of a language arts major with a master's degree, who has been writing in English (his second language to my knowledge) for many years, and is far better at it than me and many other native English speakers.

Face it, you misunderstood the article's segue and are scrambling to blame someone else for what, quite honestly, doesn't even matter. No one cares that you didn't catch the meaning right off, except perhaps you.

But just in case you need it for future reference, here is a breakdown of the article flow in layman's terms, with my explanation in braces:

This tweet from Tom Warren {regarding proper multitasking on a tablet} made me smile. So, it's 2012 and tablets are finally able to do what the Amiga did in 1985. {the Amiga could multitask in 1985} Seems like a bit of a stretch to be excited about that, right? Sure, until I caught myself getting excited - only a bit, but still - {here's the segue} by this piece of news. {about multi-user support on Android}

I find it really sad that I had to do that, but I hope it helps you in your future attempts at reading.

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RE[3]: Random idea
by ncafferkey on Tue 7th Aug 2012 10:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Random idea"
ncafferkey Member since:
2006-09-15

Amiga was a completely proprietary platform that only worked because Commodore exerted a level of control that makes Apple look like a hippy open-source startup.


Nonsense. Anyone was allowed to write apps, games or even OS extensions for the Amiga without any interference from Commodore. No payment or permission was necessary.

The Amiga platform was doomed from the start because it assumed that no improvements to hardware or software were physically possible after 1985, while the "primitive" PC was designed from day 1 with the understanding that technology would progress forward.


If anything, that's the wrong way around. Everyone knows the original IBM PC was a cobbled-together POS. 640k limit anyone?

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RE[2]: Random idea
by henderson101 on Mon 6th Aug 2012 09:46 in reply to "RE: Random idea"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Context is important, there was no context here. Sorry, I'm with the masses - Thom messed up. What Thom did is the same as this:

"The king was in my home town today. He is an idiot. John is still my friend, no matter what."

Who is the idiot? John or the king? Sentences that rely on inside knowledge are unhelpful. Sentences that don't convey enough information are open to misinterpretation.

As another person said miles down a thread, add 3 words:

This tweet from Tom Warren about tablets multitasking made me smile.


Let's also deflate the argument about links - I read the front page news in an RSS feed. There are no links in the body of the RSS feed text, so your argument, and Thom's, is pretty much moot. No excuses, terse is terse. And misleading is misleading no matter how much Thom thinks we should just understand what is in his head. As someone else mentioned, poor journalism shines through on this site recently. No neutral POV or reporting, no objectivity, and falling in to personal Blog territory. If there was another site that dealt with the OS topics in detail, I'd be off here for good. I've been trying to help by submitting as many stories as I can recently (and 3 or so have been featured), but it's like pissing in the wind sometimes.

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RE[3]: Random idea
by Morgan on Mon 6th Aug 2012 10:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Random idea"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Context is important, there was no context here. Sorry, I'm with the masses - Thom messed up.


Given the overwhelming minority I seem to be in on this issue, I'm inclined to agree at this point. However, I stand behind my replies to CajunArson because instead of asking for clarification or offering his own interpretation, he out and out attacked Thom with a ton of ultimately irrelevant information about just how non-multi-user Amiga was. He basically said "It appears to me that you said the sky is green, so fuck you and by the way here's five hundred studies saying which exact shade of blue the sky is". I found that to be rude and offensive and I chose to speak up about it.

And I get it, really I do. I've come a long way from the angry nerd I used to be, lashing out at any perceived slight or calling someone stupid because they misspelled a word here or mixed up some terminology there. I was an asshole years ago, but I've grown up. Now, to see someone else (and CajunArson isn't the only one by far) act like the child I used to be, well I chose to educate in my sarcastic way. It turned out that a lot more people were confused by Thom's summary than I thought possible (again, I got it right away but I had also read the tweets, a habit I've always had; it makes reading a Wikipedia article an hours-long adventure sometimes). That is why I haven't commented again on that particular subject until now.

I've been trying to help by submitting as many stories as I can recently (and 3 or so have been featured), but it's like pissing in the wind sometimes.


I've also tried submitting a couple of times, but either Thom already had a similar submission lined up that got posted instead, or (I'm assuming) it wasn't deemed interesting enough to publish. No skin off my nose, I don't take offense to it. If I did, I'd just start my own tech blog and write to my heart's content. Thing is, as much as I work and still try to maintain a social life, I just don't have time to do the heavy lifting. I'm happy with occasionally submitting articles here and at other community-oriented news sites and if something sticks, hey there's my fifteen minutes of fame. ;)

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RE[2]: Random idea
by henderson101 on Mon 6th Aug 2012 09:52 in reply to "RE: Random idea"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Sorry, but this is what we get int he RSS feed, exactly this, nothing more:

This tweet from Tom Warren made me smile. So, it's 2012 and tablets are finally able to do what the Amiga did in 1985. Seems like a bit of a stretch to be excited about that, right? Sure, until I caught myself getting excited - only a bit, but still - by this piece of news.


Where is the clear change of topic or any indication that the entire paragraph, save last line, is unrelated to the title? None. Doesn't exist. There's are no links, there is no other contextual information. Therefore it is misleading, end of story.

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RE[3]: Random idea
by Morgan on Mon 6th Aug 2012 10:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Random idea"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

You may want to send an email to Adam or David about that. It may be the way the OSNews code formats the RSS or it could be your reader, and it might behoove you to find out for sure. I'm leaning towards OSNews code myself, since I vaguely remember seeing links but not being able to click on them back when I used RSS readers. I certainly don't think it is intentionally misleading as you suggest; that would be highly counterproductive to the site's existence, and quite silly to boot.

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