Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Aug 2012 00:00 UTC
X11, Window Managers We have some very good news for those of us with a love for the Common Desktop Environment. I'm a huge fan of CDE - I've even dedicated an article to it - so I'm excited about this. CDE has been released as open source under the LGPL, and can be downloaded as of today for Debian and Ubuntu. Motif will follow later.
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Appreciation for CDE, OpenVMS
by Hypnos on Mon 6th Aug 2012 01:38 UTC
Hypnos
Member since:
2008-11-19

It was coherently designed, well-documented and almost entirely bug free. Not unlike OpenVMS, which is where I used CDE.

Yeah, it's ugly as sin, but managed to stay out of the way let you do your work, which I consider a high compliment for a desktop environment -- or an operating system.

Does this mean I'll use it now? No -- XFCE, which has a lot more mindshare, does the job for me, and there are many GTK apps I would miss (e.g., Firefox). Perhaps CDE should have gone open a long time ago to have any hope ...

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FunkyELF Member since:
2006-07-26

Pretty sure you'd still be able to run GTK+ applications, just like you can run KDE applications from Gnome or XFce

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Hypnos Member since:
2008-11-19

Perhaps, but what would I gain then by using CDE, in exchange for the visual and configuration inconsistency?

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Does this mean I'll use it now? No -- XFCE, which has a lot more mindshare, does the job for me, and there are many GTK apps I would miss (e.g., Firefox).


Years ago, I had some customers insisting on having their well-known CDE environment "somehow" on their new Linux and BSD workstations. I ended up installing XFCE 3 for them, and with some tweaking (especially colors and some menu editing), I was told that that was exactly what they've looked for. The system was later on changed by replacing lots of workstations with thin clients (using X11 networking sessions). That solution was "exactly like" what they knew from their former Solaris environment, even though they did use quite different programs (leaving XFCE to serve as window manager and program launcher).

Sadly, this solution seems to be impossible now as XFCE 3 isn't supported anymure (due to the death of Gtk 1), and Xfce 4 (using Gtk 2) is much more "too different". I still have a 300 MHz system running BSD with XFCE 3, office programs and multimedia stuff. Unbreakable. :-)

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Hypnos Member since:
2008-11-19

There is a certain elegance to having rock solid system that still gets the job done. Whizbang features just get in the way.

This is something from the *BSD/commercial Unix world that I miss in the Linux ecosystem.

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