Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Aug 2012 18:34 UTC
Apple Well, this is interesting. Apple has released iOS 6 beta 4, and it removes one of the staples of iOS, included since its very first release with the first iPhone: beta 4 does not include the YouTube application. YouTube is owned by Google, so that could be an explanation. However, unless Google has its own iOS YouTube application ready, iOS 6 could lead to a lot of unhappy iPhone and iPad users. The large websites with sources inside Apple are probably hard at work trying to find out what's going on here - could just be a bug, or maybe a way to gauge public response by causing news sites and blogs to post about it. Huh. Update: thank god for sites with clout: The Verge confirms that Google is working on a stand-alone iOS YouTube application. Good news for users, since the stock one wasn't particularly good to begin with.
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RE[7]: Comment by shmerl
by ilovebeer on Tue 7th Aug 2012 15:34 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by shmerl"
ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

MPEG-LA didn't really hide that they are worried, and OSNews even reported it:

http://www.osnews.com/story/23335/Patent_Troll_Larry_Horn_of_MPEG-L...

MPEG-LA wouldn't make noise, if they had nothing to worry about.

You obviously don't understand why MPEG-LA would go after VP8 do you? It has nothing to do with being worried and everything to do with portions of H.264 being blatantly ripped off. Don't assume you know something, especially when you haven't done your homework.

It's absurd how some of you think every time a company starts flexing their patent muscle it's because they're in fear of competition, just "trolling" to be assholes, and never about actually legally protecting their interests. It's very telling, revealing how little you really know on the subject.

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RE[8]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 7th Aug 2012 16:23 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by shmerl"
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2010-06-08

Wake up. All MPEG-LA cares about is money, and they are scared that market penetration of H.264 will be weakened by VP8. They claimed before that Theora has some "rip offs". They never tried to attack it though, since it's not a real competitor. VP8 on the other hand is way more scary for them. However VP8 was designed around H.264 patents, so there is no "rip offs" there. Therefore all MPEG-LA is doing here, is fear mongering and spreading FUD to deter WebM adoption.

It's absurd how some of you think every time a company starts flexing their patent muscle it's because they're in fear of competition,


It's absurd that you ignore the reality, in which most software patent aggressors (who are not pure trolls who have nothing except patents) do exactly that - use their patents to hinder competitors.

Edited 2012-08-07 16:31 UTC

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RE[9]: Comment by shmerl
by ilovebeer on Tue 7th Aug 2012 19:51 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by shmerl"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Wake up. All MPEG-LA cares about is money, and they are scared that market penetration of H.264 will be weakened by VP8. They claimed before that Theora has some "rip offs". They never tried to attack it though, since it's not a real competitor. VP8 on the other hand is way more scary for them. However VP8 was designed around H.264 patents, so there is no "rip offs" there. Therefore all MPEG-LA is doing here, is fear mongering and spreading FUD to deter WebM adoption.

Nice theory. Not true, but nice theory.

It's absurd how some of you think every time a company starts flexing their patent muscle it's because they're in fear of competition, just "trolling" to be assholes, and never about actually legally protecting their interests.

It's absurd that you ignore the reality, in which most software patent aggressors (who are not pure trolls who have nothing except patents) do exactly that - use their patents to hinder competitors.

I haven't ignored anything. I'm just not that naive to assume everyone engaging in patent lawsuits is doing so because they're trembling out of fear of the "competition". I'm not telling you not to use that as your default position, but I am saying it's absurd... which it is.

If you had any clue how entrenched H.264 is already (meaning in part that the checks have already cleared), you may realize how little of a threat VP8 is -- aside of being inferior in most regards. I can tell you right now that VP8 has zero chance of impacting broadcasting, where the big money is.

Edited 2012-08-07 20:03 UTC

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