Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Aug 2012 18:34 UTC
Apple Well, this is interesting. Apple has released iOS 6 beta 4, and it removes one of the staples of iOS, included since its very first release with the first iPhone: beta 4 does not include the YouTube application. YouTube is owned by Google, so that could be an explanation. However, unless Google has its own iOS YouTube application ready, iOS 6 could lead to a lot of unhappy iPhone and iPad users. The large websites with sources inside Apple are probably hard at work trying to find out what's going on here - could just be a bug, or maybe a way to gauge public response by causing news sites and blogs to post about it. Huh. Update: thank god for sites with clout: The Verge confirms that Google is working on a stand-alone iOS YouTube application. Good news for users, since the stock one wasn't particularly good to begin with.
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RE[11]: Comment by shmerl
by ilovebeer on Tue 7th Aug 2012 23:42 UTC in reply to "RE[10]: Comment by shmerl"
ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

As I said, with so little threat they seem to make too much noise about it. But I'm repeating myself.

You're repeating yourself because you refuse or can't understand that it's not about fear or threat.

If you had any clue how entrenched H.264 is already

Do you think this a secret or something? Penetration of H.264 is well known. And it's exactly the status quo which MPEG-LA wants to keep (and that's the primary MPEG-LA purpose). That's why it's eager to attack really competing codecs, and doesn't care to deal with non competitors.

No, I don't think it's a secret, because it isn't. But, that doesn't mean some people don't need to be told. Of course MPEG-LA would like to keep things as they are, ...and there is little worry about VP8 reasons I have already stated (and all the ones I haven't). No amount of insistence on your part is going to negate any of that and turn your theory into reality.

Developing theories is absolutely fine but at least try to find shreds of supportive evidence rather than make claims and insist they're true only because you believe it to be so.

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RE[12]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 7th Aug 2012 23:51 in reply to "RE[11]: Comment by shmerl"
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2010-06-08

You can insist all you want. On technical merits VP8 is competitive enough with H.264 and it's all that's needed to understand why MPEG-LA would worry, even though they'll never really tell you what they really think.

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RE[13]: Comment by shmerl
by ilovebeer on Wed 8th Aug 2012 01:47 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by shmerl"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

No, on technical merits VP8 doesn't measure up in most areas. That is why it is no competition for H.264 main and high profiles. This also is no secret. Anyone who is unwilling to acknowledge the fact clearly has no understanding on the subject.

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