Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 06:23 UTC
Legal "The 2010 report, translated from Korean, goes feature by feature, evaluating how Samsung's phone stacks up against the iPhone. Authored by Samsung's product engineering team, the document evaluates everything from the home screen to the browser to the built in apps on both devices. In each case, it comes up with a recommendation on what Samsung should do going forward and in most cases its answer is simple: Make it work more like the iPhone." Pretty damning. We still need to know a few things: how many of these were actually implemented? How common are these types of comparisons (i.e., does Apple have them)? Are these protected by patents and the like? And, but that's largely irrelevant and mostly of interest to me because I'm a translator myself, who translated the document, and how well has he or she done the job?
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RE[4]: Common practice
by HangLoose on Wed 8th Aug 2012 09:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Common practice"
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I dont know what you were using back then but I thank Nokia for giving me Maemo based devices.

This generalization of what everyone thinks/expects is very broad and makes me think that you subscribe to the fantasy/delusion that Steve Jobs created the iPhone out of thin air. No outside inspiration, no copying of others and so on.

It still stands the fact that companies do this all... the... time...

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RE[5]: Common practice
by MOS6510 on Wed 8th Aug 2012 09:59 in reply to "RE[4]: Common practice"
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I was using a Nokia E90.

I don't think Steve created the iPhone out of thin air, nor does Apple claim this. For some strange reason it's the Apple haters/Google fans that claim Apple claims this and then ridicule it.

Apple has been working on this for years and they took a big gable getting in to the mobile phone industry.

Specs wise the first iPhone wasn't that good at all, but it was a milestone and changed what we expect from mobile phones. This is not inventing, but innovating.

Samsung may have had prototypes that were iPhone-like, but they didn't turk them in to products until they saw that the iPhone was a success. They then went through great lengths to mimic the iPhone and later iPad.

While Apple takes a gamble what consumers may like Samsung makes what consumer like, letting others take the risks. You can't blame Samsung for this, but I think you can frown upon the way they did it.

Sure they can look at the iPhone, but then they should think of ways of making a product that's better. This is innovation and this benefits the consumer.

Now Samsung and others are making more and more of the same, they just add bells 'n' whistles. Apple didn't do this with the original iPhone, it even lacked a lot of bells 'n' whistles, but the product as a whole made it a very compelling device.

It's the same story with tablets. There were tablets before the iPad, but they sucked. The iPad came and showed how to make a tablet people will buy and others copied. It isn't an original product, nor an invention, but it is a winning combination of other's technology and ideas mixed with Apple's stuff and Steve's vision.

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RE[6]: Common practice
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 10:02 in reply to "RE[5]: Common practice"
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I don't think Steve created the iPhone out of thin air, nor does Apple claim this. For some strange reason it's the Apple haters/Google fans that claim Apple claims this and then ridicule it.

Apple files the patents, so Apple thinks it invented it. End of story.

It isn't an original product, nor an invention

Then why did Apple file the patents?

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RE[6]: Common practice
by nefer on Wed 8th Aug 2012 10:53 in reply to "RE[5]: Common practice"
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Well said. And its hardly the first time they do that either now is it.

Samsung has - for the longest time now - been trying to dominate every nook and cranny of the mobile phone industry. From copying the basic phone form factor spearheaded by Nokia, over the BlackBerry format from RIM (BlackJack? are you friggin serious??) up until the iOS-based devices ever since they were sourced for components for the iPhone.

If Samsung is such a large company, why do they need to copy all these formats, why is it so hard for them to leapfrog the competition to the next big thing, just like Apple, RIM and Nokia did before?

Samsung is - effectively - the Microsoft of the Mobile phone industry. And just like Microsoft, they didn't invent anything really substantial either. Did they invent the GSM standard? No. Did they invent any of the popular mobile phone form factors? No. Did they invent feature phones? No. Did they invent smartphones? No. All they ever did was invent a couple of industry standards other vendors settled on using. Do we applaud Microsoft for inventing MAPI? Or the .doc format? All those ever seemed to have done is protecting a monopoly anyway.

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RE[6]: Common practice
by libray on Wed 8th Aug 2012 17:15 in reply to "RE[5]: Common practice"
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It's not just Apple haters/Google fans noting that Apple did not innovate. I was using a Palm with touchscreen capabilities when the iPhone was introduced. Too bad Palm did not patent this. I'm seeing a lot of phones use a stylus nowadays.

That seems to be the Apple way. Discount someone else's technology and once they are gone, incorporate it as the hottest next best thing.

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