Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 06:23 UTC
Legal "The 2010 report, translated from Korean, goes feature by feature, evaluating how Samsung's phone stacks up against the iPhone. Authored by Samsung's product engineering team, the document evaluates everything from the home screen to the browser to the built in apps on both devices. In each case, it comes up with a recommendation on what Samsung should do going forward and in most cases its answer is simple: Make it work more like the iPhone." Pretty damning. We still need to know a few things: how many of these were actually implemented? How common are these types of comparisons (i.e., does Apple have them)? Are these protected by patents and the like? And, but that's largely irrelevant and mostly of interest to me because I'm a translator myself, who translated the document, and how well has he or she done the job?
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Apple is not on trial
by Windows Sucks on Wed 8th Aug 2012 11:15 UTC
Windows Sucks
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2005-11-10

I am confused as to why this site still is so Anti Apple. Apple is not on Trial here, Sammy is. And even though there is a TON of evidence that has come out showing that basically Sammy looked at the iPhone and cloned it to start their large touch screen smart phones, this site keeps giving them the benefit of the doubt.

To the point of saying the translation of the documents need to be looked at (Like the original wont be in court to be re-translated if needed)

Wow.

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RE: Apple is not on trial
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 11:19 in reply to "Apple is not on trial"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

To the point of saying the translation of the documents need to be looked at (Like the original wont be in court to be re-translated if needed)


Uh, no. I am a translator myself, and I know just how easy it is - without knowing it - to muck up things like tenses or voices, especially with languages as disparate as English and Korean. Considering how important this document is, and looking at it from my professional experience, this is a VERY valid concern - especially if Apple translated it itself (instead of having a third party do so).

Edited 2012-08-08 11:19 UTC

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

[q]Uh, no. I am a translator myself, and I know just how easy it is - without knowing it - to muck up things like tenses or voices, especially with languages as disparate as English and Korean. Considering how important this document is, and looking at it from my professional experience, this is a VERY valid concern - especially if Apple translated it itself (instead of having a third party do so).


I am hoping that the court would not admit the document on a "It looks interesting" basis and not check the validity of the document first.

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RE[2]: Apple is not on trial
by Tony Swash on Wed 8th Aug 2012 21:35 in reply to "RE: Apple is not on trial"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

"To the point of saying the translation of the documents need to be looked at (Like the original wont be in court to be re-translated if needed)


Uh, no. I am a translator myself, and I know just how easy it is - without knowing it - to muck up things like tenses or voices, especially with languages as disparate as English and Korean. Considering how important this document is, and looking at it from my professional experience, this is a VERY valid concern - especially if Apple translated it itself (instead of having a third party do so).
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OK Thom let's leave the translation issue to one side and assume that if the translation is problematic then Samsung will pick that up and deal with it themselves in court.

Lets get to the meat of the issue. If we take this document at face value what do you think of it? What does it reveal about Samsung's approach to product design? These are worthwhile questions to pose and ones you should answer.

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RE: Apple is not on trial
by MOS6510 on Wed 8th Aug 2012 12:07 in reply to "Apple is not on trial"
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2011-05-12

It may seem that Samsung is on trial, but Apple sued Samsung and Samsung countersued.

The number of complaints was trimmed down and both cases combined.

Apparently there is a certain place where everybody sits in a courtroom and Samsung objected they had to take the seats of the defendants and even wanted to switch seats each time either side's lawyer came in to action.

Despite all this we all know Samsung actually is the defendant and they copied Apple. It's just the question if this can be proven and if it really matters if they did.

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