Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 18:45 UTC
Games Valve has just announced it will start selling applications through Steam. "The Software titles coming to Steam range from creativity to productivity. Many of the launch titles will take advantage of popular Steamworks features, such as easy installation, automatic updating, and the ability to save your work to your personal Steam Cloud space so your files may travel with you. More Software titles will be added in an ongoing fashion following the September 5th launch, and developers will be welcome to submit Software titles via Steam Greenlight." I feel like a broken record at this point, but guys and girls, Valve is going to release specifications for a 'Steambox'. A set of minimum specifications a Linux or Windows machine has to adhere to, either self-built or by an OEM. Steam pre-installed, can be used as regular PC and as a console. With Windows 8 locking itself down, this is their only option - and I applaud it.
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RE[7]: Package management
by Gone fishing on Thu 9th Aug 2012 14:39 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Package management"
Gone fishing
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2006-02-22

But a 20 minute bootup time still seems awfully long in my eyes.logic?


Ten minutes to shut down whilst downloading updates and installing updates then ten minutes to start up while windows configures updates 20 minutes in total.

So you don't reboot into it regularly and you are surprised that there are more updates and they take longer to install?

I am sure if I didn't boot my fedora core installation in 3 months it would take a while to download and install all the updates
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I'm sure if I didn't run my Ubuntu or Debian box for a while it would take a while to download and install updates. What it wouldn't do is take 10 minutes to shut down while it was downloading the updates with no get out option and then take 10 minutes to apply them on next start up again with no option for just starting.

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RE[8]: Package management
by lucas_maximus on Thu 9th Aug 2012 18:16 in reply to "RE[7]: Package management"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I'm sure if I didn't run my Ubuntu or Debian box for a while it would take a while to download and install updates. What it wouldn't do is take 10 minutes to shut down while it was downloading the updates with no get out option and then take 10 minutes to apply them on next start up again with no option for just starting.


That is because it over writes the files that are in use. This can create un-expected results. I had firefox die during a Yum updates.

Windows doesn't do that it overwrites them when they aren't being used. It applies them safely and that is why it takes longer.

10 minutes outside of a service pack, I still don't believe, I waited maybe a minute or two.

Edited 2012-08-09 18:19 UTC

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RE[9]: Package management
by Nth_Man on Fri 10th Aug 2012 11:42 in reply to "RE[8]: Package management"
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2010-05-16

I had firefox die during a Yum updates.

Mmm... in that case I wouldn't use Yum :-( . Maybe it's an advantage of apt updates.
Last time I tried to update the system (Firefox included) having forgot to close Firefox, Firefox opened a bar saying that it was updated and needed to be restarted, showing a button for the user to do so.

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