Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Aug 2012 13:12 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "It'll be a full x86 device - Lenovo calls a 'joint effort' with Intel and Microsoft - that clocks in at 1.3 pounds with a 10.1-inch 1366 x 768 display. It's billed to have 10-hour battery life, which would be impressive for a device only 9.8mm thick. The standard model is Wi-Fi-only, but there will also be carrier versions including one with AT&T's LTE connectivity." If you see a 1366x768 resolution on a 10.1" display, they blew it.
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RE: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Thu 9th Aug 2012 16:27 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
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Lenovo is one of the companies who practically explicitly state they they deny refunds for bundled software. Up until recently, their rules used to say:

Lenovo does not provide refunds or credits for portions of a packaged offering provided at a single price or for preloaded programs installed by Lenovo.

Then, they were hit with a court ruling which exposed such product tying as illegal. They changed the wording a bit (not the essence though):

If you acquired a software product separate from a hardware product, and paid a license fee, you may return the software product in its original, sealed package within 21 days of the date of invoice and obtain a refund or credit.

I.e. they still pretend you can't get a refund, if you bought the software together with the hardware.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by Nelson on Thu 9th Aug 2012 18:03 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
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Next you'll want a refund for the OS that runs on your microwave oven.

Its one thing to want the freedom to install another OS, its another thing to demand a refund for an OS which was sold to Lenovo at a volume discounted rate.

This steers into the realm of ridiculousness.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Morgan on Thu 9th Aug 2012 19:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
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Next you'll want a refund for the OS that runs on your microwave oven.

You know very well it's not the same thing at all. Comparing hard-coded firmware to user-uninstallable software is misleading and beneath you.

The rest of your statement has no legs to stand on. Microsoft's own EULA states that you can and should seek a refund if you don't agree with the terms of the EULA. If the hardware manufacturer won't comply, they still have to honor their own warranty and refund for a defective purchase. The only way they can avoid that would be to post the entire Microsoft OS EULA on their website or at the physical point of sale, and require you to agree to it before completing the purchase.

If your take on it was the way the world worked, then every store in existence would just mark down all their products by a penny and say "we sold it to you at a discounted rate, therefore you are not eligible for a refund or exchange". The public wouldn't stand for that, and neither should computer purchasers.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Thu 9th Aug 2012 19:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
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Tablet computer is not an appliance. It's a mulitpurpose universal computer device. Therefore your example is irrelevant.

While the notion of many vendors to turn computers into appliances is known (that logic helps them to lock them up), users should resist such kind of logic as much as possible, especially when it comes to real multipurpose devices.

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