Linked by nej_simon on Sat 11th Aug 2012 12:10 UTC
Legal "[...] tonight Apple entered into evidence in its trial with Samsung a document showing that it offered the South Korean company a licensing deal on some of its key technologies. Specifically, Apple offered to license the portfolio of patents if Samsung would pay $30 per smartphone and $40 per tablet." $30-40 per device is a lot of money for some trivial features (rounded corners, slide-to-unlock etc). No wonder Samsung declined.
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RE[2]: Always negative on Apple.
by Tony Swash on Sat 11th Aug 2012 16:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Always negative on Apple."
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

Uhm, Samsung doesn't give out sales numbers. Analysts do.


Ever eager to jump to Samsung's defence I see.

Do you think Samsung should issue actual sales figures?

The trial has not forced Samsung to release it's global sales figures but those US sales figures make previous estimates of global sales look like they have been, with Samsung's encouragement, wildly exaggerated.

Philip Elmer-DeWitt August 10, 2012 FORTUNE --
In early December 2010, dozens of reporters happily repeated Samsung's claim that it had sold 1 million Galaxy Tab computers in the three and a half weeks since the tablet's November 2010 U.S. debut. Seven weeks later Samsung was telling analysts that Tab sales had passed 2 million.

It's hard to reconcile those numbers with court documents Samsung filed Thursday in a California federal court that show the company selling 262,000 Galaxy Tabs in the U.S. -- the world's largest tablet market -- in Q4 2010 and 77,000 in Q1 2011.

The discrepancy in the estimates of independent market researchers is even greater. According to an IDC press release issued just last week, Samsung sold 2,391,000 tablet computers worldwide in Q2 2012, up 117.6% from the same quarter last year. According to Samsung's court filing, it sold a total of 37,000 "accused" tablets (see UPDATE) in the U.S. last quarter, down 86% year over year.

While its possible that Samsung's overseas sales made up the difference, it's extremely unlikely. According to court documents Apple (AAPL) filed Thursday, revealing for the first time its domestic iPhone and iPad sales figures, the U.S. represented an average of 42% of its worldwide tablet unit sales over the past nine quarters. The U.S. share of iPad sales was never lower than 26%.

If Samsung really sold 2.4 million tablets last quarter, as IDC estimates, 1.5% were sold in the U.S. and 98.5% overseas. That's pretty hard to believe.


http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/10/apple-sold-5-7-million-table...

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The trial has not forced Samsung to release it's global sales figures but those US sales figures make previous estimates of global sales look like they have been, with Samsung's encouragement, wildly exaggerated.


Not really. Asymco noted that the figures from the court case amounted to 4% of Samsung's estimated total sales. The United States population is 4.4% of the world population. Seems pretty plausible to me, especially when you take into account that Apple is popular in the US, but far less so in the rest of the world.

Edited 2012-08-11 16:29 UTC

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

But not 4.4% of the population willing and able to buy a tablet..you can't be forreal.

Edited 2012-08-11 16:33 UTC

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Not really. Asymco noted that the figures from the court case amounted to 4% of Samsung's estimated total sales. The United States population is 4.4% of the world population. Seems pretty plausible to me,.


I guess all those sales in Somalia really add up ;)

Why not just accept the obvious, that Samsung exaggerated it's sales and never actually releases any actual sales figures but should.

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