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But the designs are not Apple's -- the designs did not originate at Apple. "

If they didn't then why is Apple not being sued the same by those who did create them? Why is Sony not in court to Samsungs defense or Nokia or all these other companies that Apple stole from??

Because that is just opinion. The fact is Apple patented all their stuff, others didn't. That's not Apples fault. As they say in rap music "Protect yo neck" or CYA. Apple CYAed their self.

Apple is a company like any other company, out to make money! The thing that bugs me is everyone is acting like Apple is evil any more then Google or MS or Intel or IBM. They all do or have done stuff to protect market share, MS was almost split apart for it.

Just give a little more balance. If you gonna point out Apple, point out Samsungs faults also!

Edited 2012-08-11 17:34 UTC

Windows Sucks baited...

Why? Because clearly this whole thing was never about making money, it was about destroying competition. Steve Jobs made it clear before his death bed that he was willing to take the current patent standoff of MAD and make it hot nuclear war if that was what it would take to destroy the competition. Thanks to a dead man we now have almost every tech corporation engaged in a patent war no one can win but the lawyers.

--bornagainpenguin

Are you saying that Samsung did not copy Apple's products even though we now have internal Samsung documents showing them doing exactly that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9aW1atFLMM

No. Imprecise fanboy reasoning is the culprit here (as it is in almost all issues involving Apple).

As I said, the designs did not originate at Apple. Whether or not Samsung copied the unoriginal Apple design is another issue.

However, the fanboys can't seem to understand that one issue makes the other moot. If the designs did not originate at Apple, then Apple has no rightful claim to the designs. So, it doesn't matter whether or not Samsung "copied" Apple, because they are actually emulating prior, non-Apple art.

Now, the issue of Samsung copying Apple is hardly an "open-and-shut" case. Internal Apple documents show that Apple copied Sony, yet fanboys dismiss that.

Furthermore, just because Samsung tried to emulate Apple with one product, it does not mean that they did not already have designs that were identical or very similar to what they sought. Samsung's own prior art was extremely close, with only very minor differences.

Of course, there is also the issue of obviousness. Everything about the design of Apple's (and its competitors) touchscreen products is obvious. This obviousness is reinforced by very early prior art in movies, product mock-ups, and old sketches. If the fanboys really believe that it is original to combine rounded corners with icons grids and a shiny, flush black bezel, etc, I suggest that they spend some time actually researching and looking at the vast, vibrant industrial design world that is, and was (and will be) out there, of which Apple is only a mere unremarkable speck. Truly great, inspired designs always appear on a regular basis.